Coach Meyer on Tim Tebow

[jmike131014]

Hard work beats talent all day long. It only takes one team to believe in Tim, If one believes then everything else will take care of itself.. It gotta be an offense like San Fran or Washington . Let Tim do his thing

[tilly]

Originally Posted by jmike131014

Hard work beats talent all day long.

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[rserina]

Originally Posted by gator85jd

What's been the biggest obstacle in the stalling career of NFL quarterback Tim Tebow?

It's that his college coach allowed Tim Tebow to be Tim Tebow and didn't demand that the quarterbacks coach work with him to develop his skills. Tebow will be perhaps the greatest football player ever at UF, but how did Tim improve from his freshman year to his senior year?

Now we are blaming Meyer for "stalling the career" of Tebow. Alright. Need scapegoats much?

[gator85jd]

Originally Posted by rserina

Now we are blaming Meyer for "stalling the career" of Tebow. Alright. Need scapegoats much?

How did Tim improve from his freshman year to his senior year?

[jdiggy03]

Originally Posted by UFLAW81

I'm not sure why the press is asking Corch Meyer about Tim anyway.
Give Corch Meyer some respect for even answering the questions.

Hahahaha

[bofusgators]

I hope TT can find a place to be happy and that the place is happy with him. He deserves this much.

[GatorStang]

Originally Posted by gator85jd

How did Tim improve from his freshman year to his senior year?

Went from being a "change up" player to LEADING the team to back to back 13-1 seasons with NC and sugar bowl victories?

[MaceoP]

IMO, Tim's passing went downhill after Mullen left. Tim's senior year, in 9 SEC games, he passed for over 200 yards in 3 games, he passed for over 300 yards 0 games. In the Arkansas game, he rushed 27 times.

In 2009, Addazio and Meyer rode Tim almost all the way to the championship. It all came apart against Bama.

It's mind boggling to think that Tim passed for over 200 yards in only 3 out of 9 games in his senior year.

[PIMking]

Dude hasn't had the same oc for the last 4 years.

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[gator85jd]

Originally Posted by GatorStang

Went from being a "change up" player to LEADING the team to back to back 13-1 seasons with NC and sugar bowl victories?

But, but, but . . . . the team was winning. The quarterback's development HAD to be progressing. How could they win if not???

[sleeze]

Originally Posted by tilly

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Hard work...made AI good while growing up...he is one of the quickest ever...but he still spent many afternoons on that crossover.

He might have gotten lazy later on in life.

[Spurffelbow833]

Originally Posted by rserina

Now we are blaming Meyer for "stalling the career" of Tebow. Alright. Need scapegoats much?

I take cheap shots at Urban as much as anyone, but I blame collusion on the part of the NFL way more than I blame Urban Meyer for Tim's struggles. Even if this is true, Urban Meyer was the head coach of the Florida Gators. As such, it was his job to see to it that the Gators won games, not to develop any one player at the expense of benefitting from what that player could contribute to the team immediately for the sake of the present.

[LimeyGator]

Phew.

I have to confess it's taken a couple days for me to be brave enough to open this thread.

I was expecting more LSUFreak work here, based purely on the thread title. I mean, I know they're good friends n' all but...

[Spurffelbow833]

When he's in Shelley's doghouse, Urban probably sleeps on the same couch Tim has slept on from time to time. Perhaps we could get Verne Lundquist to move on from the Tim and Riley are roommates line to this.

[gator0316]

Maybe coach kelly who just took over a pro team and runs the spread will be interested in tim

[Wormwood56]

Originally Posted by atlantagator86

Some of you guys kill me how you can you see just what you want to see.

Yes, Tebow took Denver to the playoffs and even won a wildcard playoff game. But too many of you are quick to credit Tebow alone for Denver's turnaround.

While everyone is quick to remember how Tebow turned Denver around, they forget that Denver lost their last 3 regular seasons games, getting blown out by New England and Buffalo and losing to KC and then getting blown out by New England again in the playoffs. The Broncos were 1-4 in their final 5 games last year, including 3 blowouts.

Plus, last year Tebow had a completion percentage of 46.5% and a QB rating of 72.9. No team is going to build their offense around a QB with a sub-50% completion percentage and QB rating that low.

And then fast forward to this year, the Broncos bring in Manning and go 13-3, the best record in the AFC, with largely the same team. Do any of you seriously think Elway made a mistake not building his team around Tebow?!?!

I believe the Denver improvement last year shows not so much how good Tebow is but how horrible Orton was.

I have little doubt that somebody will give Tebow a chance next year, but unlike many of you, I believe he will probably be brought in as a 3rd QB and have to take the job from whoever's in front of him. But NOBODY is going to bring Tebow in as the guy they build their offense around.

I honestly wouldn't be totally surprised to see a team like Washington, San Francisco, Seattle, Philly or Carolina pick up Tebow as a backup to their mobile QBs. How ironic would it be for Tebow to be Newton's back-up?!?!?!

This is going to be a very unpopular viewpoint here, but it is accurate. I remember the discussions we had here regarding Tim's NFL viability as a quarterback when he was still here. Tim's astonishing passing numbers were due in large part to his devastating running ability. Defenses could not afford to drop players back in pass coverage for fear that Tim would tear off a 20 yard rumble up the middle. When Tim had single coverage on his receivers at the college game, he was in heaven.

But the NFL game is far tougher. Opposing defenses did not have to put eight in the box to stop Tim on the ground, and NFL defensive backs are FAR, FAR better than their college counterparts, as Steve Spurrier learned the hard way at Washington. They are faster, stronger, and most importantly, FAR more intelligent and experienced.

But it was equally clear that Tim was not a very good pro-style quarterback, and that if he didn't have his running game as an integral part of his total game, his effectiveness as a passer dropped precipitously. Remember after the Concussion Heard 'Round The World? Meyer reduced Tebow's runs, and the offense struggled. I've often said that if one could attach Chris Leak's cerebral skills and poise to all the gifts Tebow had, he'd possibly wind up at Canton with his own bust.

I am grateful for having experienced Tim with the Florida Gators, and while I wish him the very best in his NFL endeavors, the fact is that if he doesn't play another down of college football and returns to the mission, it doesn't drop the esteem he has in my eyes one iota. The NFL is a different game from the college game, requiring different skill sets.

[LimeyGator]

Originally Posted by Wormwood56

This is going to be a very unpopular viewpoint here, but it is accurate. I remember the discussions we had here regarding Tim's NFL viability as a quarterback when he was still here. Tim's astonishing passing numbers were due in large part to his devastating running ability. Defenses could not afford to drop players back in pass coverage for fear that Tim would tear off a 20 yard rumble up the middle. When Tim had single coverage on his receivers at the college game, he was in heaven.

But the NFL game is far tougher. Opposing defenses did not have to put eight in the box to stop Tim on the ground, and NFL defensive backs are FAR, FAR better than their college counterparts, as Steve Spurrier learned the hard way at Washington. They are faster, stronger, and most importantly, FAR more intelligent and experienced.

But it was equally clear that Tim was not a very good pro-style quarterback, and that if he didn't have his running game as an integral part of his total game, his effectiveness as a passer dropped precipitously. Remember after the Concussion Heard 'Round The World? Meyer reduced Tebow's runs, and the offense struggled. I've often said that if one could attach Chris Leak's cerebral skills and poise to all the gifts Tebow had, he'd possibly wind up at Canton with his own bust.

I am grateful for having experienced Tim with the Florida Gators, and while I wish him the very best in his NFL endeavors, the fact is that if he doesn't play another down of college football and returns to the mission, it doesn't drop the esteem he has in my eyes one iota. The NFL is a different game from the college game, requiring different skill sets.

Unpopular viewpoint or not, that's a rational, considered and well put response.

I'm a huge Timmy fan and really want him to succeed but you summarise the situation very nicely.

[TheRaid]

Would like to have seen Spurrier coach in the NFL with a real QB just one season. Would have liked to see Tebow play in the NFL with receivers and a coach that believes in him for at least one full season. Neither happened. Denver was shocked Tebow did anything with minimal WR talent around him. They brought in Peyton's hand picked talent for Peyton. Spurrier got a rookie from Temple. Both Tebow and SOS got screwed and fans were robbed of enjoying either.

[tommyvee]

Tim just needs a coach to believe in him. He looked great passing at the end of his rookie year after McDaniels got fired. Last year with Denver, he looked to be over thinking at the position. He played to minimize mistakes to allow them to be in position to win it late.

Let him play his game using the read option to his advantage. Tim's not a pocket passer curerntly, but that doesn't mean he can't improve at it. He just needs live reps.

[GatorStang]

Originally Posted by LimeyGator

Unpopular viewpoint or not, that's a rational, considered and well put response.

I'm a huge Timmy fan and really want him to succeed but you summarise the situation very nicely.

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