Texas A&M Game Box Score MVG: Patric Young

[GatorJason]

Patric Young had a great all around game as the Gators grounded the fast starting Texas Aggies in a 68-47 road victory at College Station TX. Young scored 18 points, pulled down 7 boards with a block, 3 steals and no turnovers for a triple digit value score of 101. Erik Murphy, the Gators other big man proved too much to handle as he had 16 points, 7 rebounds and no turnovers to rack up 80 value credits. Michael Rosario gave offensive punch with a team leading 19 points and chipped in 3 assists with only 1 turnover to garner a respectable 62 value credits.

This is becoming a broken record as the Florida Gators again played team defense like maniacs holding the Aggies to 18 points in the first half. Despite sloppy ball handling by Gator freshmen resulting in several easy buckets in mop up duty, the Gators still held the Aggies to a season low 47 points and 34% shooting from the floor for the game.

Coming up is perhaps the Gators' biggest competition for a SEC Eastern Conference Championship as the Florida Gators host the #17 Missouri Tigers on Saturday.

Box Score Value Leaders:
Young............101
Murphy......,.....80
Rosario.....'......62

Click on this link to see all player value scores for this game

Value Credits* are assigned as follows:
+5 credits for each Steal and Assist
+4 credits for each Point scored, Rebound and Block
.-5 credits for each Turnover
.-2 credits for each Field Goal Attempt
.-1 credit for each Free Throw Attempt

* Value Credits are based solely on Box Score data and do not reflect total game contributions by players

Texas A&M Game Official Box Score

The Gators next game will be against Missouri on Saturday, Jan19th at 2:00. ESPN-850AM WRUF

[Go2gtr]

Young was a beast tonight. Murphy was a beast tonight. The team was clicking.

[gatorbogey]

bobby knight was impressed!

[jeffphillips21]

and I don't think we've even started to tap into Young-Murph interior passing potential yet (high-low post action). Yeguete has it figured out

When Young brings energy like he did tonight he's a different player, like future lottery-pick different. His defensive presence is highly underrated

[gatordavisl]

I am intrigued by the quantifiable aspect of the value credit measure and would like to read more posts like this after games. Is there any validation for such a measure? I am not doubting it, but would like to know more about the its potential as an objective measure. Thanks!

[CAGator93]

Thought that game would be a little tougher -- Go Gators!

[indyg8r]

Turner scores 40 on Kentucky, then puts 4 up on us with a 1 for 10 effort. Wow!

[gatorbogey]

that was fun to watch. i was really impressed by the tenacious defense guys were exhibiting. i know bobby knight appreciated it too.

i have to say i liked rece and knight doing our game. when we play like that, it was all good!

[grant1]

Originally Posted by gatorbogey

bobby knight was impressed!

I don't remember watching a Bobby Knight game before and enjoyed his insight and comments. He actually added to the commentary, quite unlike Dick Vitale. Although Bobby could not remember Prather's name, he acknowledged us missing his defensive skill set.

[regurgigator]

Originally Posted by gatordavisl

I am intrigued by the quantifiable aspect of the value credit measure and would like to read more posts like this after games. Is there any validation for such a measure? I am not doubting it, but would like to know more about the its potential as an objective measure. Thanks!

It's just a way of quantifying the good and bad plays that show up in the box score. I find it useful (and certainly objective), although it will, obviously, understate the value of players that do a lot of good things that don't show up in the box score - particularly good defense (which is much more than just blocked shots and steals).

[themistocles]

Originally Posted by regurgigator

It's just a way of quantifying the good and bad plays that show up in the box score. I find it useful (and certainly objective), although it will, obviously, understate the value of players that do a lot of good things that don't show up in the box score - particularly good defense (which is much more than just blocked shots and steals).

There is no Correct, or Incorrect way to attempt to quantify performance, and there are perhaps 50,000 different approaches one could take for various sports.

As Regurg noted, this doesn't take into account Good Defense, except in the forms of blocks or steals. Nor does it indicate the offensive influence of a player who drives, draws the defense out, then dishes, but doesn't get an assist; or the effects like Murphy has of stretching the defense out to defend the possible 3, which makes room for drives and assists of the short jumper or layup kind by other players than the one being measured.

It also fails to capture the vital importance of energizing teammates that some players manage to accomplish so very well.

Below are averages across all games so far (1st Column), plus, Standardized average for playing 20 minutes in a game (2nd column), sorted from Highest to Lowest Average among those who play a reasonable number of minutes per game:

As you can see, based on the number of minutes actually played, Young and Wilbekin stand considerably above everyone else, with Murphy, Yeguete, Boynton, Frazier and Rosario some 10-17 points behind, and Prather well behind.

However, if one is playing reasonable well, these numbers increase as time played goes up, and when one Standardizes to an average of 20 minutes per game, then we see that the leaders are: Prather, Murphy & Young (43-45); followed by Wilbekin & Frazier (38); with Yeguete, Boynton, and Rosario from 30-34.
Avg 20
60 43 P. Young, C
56 38 S. Wilbekin, G
46 45 E. Murphy, F-C
42 32 W. Yeguete, F
42 34 K. Boynton, G
40 38 M. Frazier II, G
39 30 M. Rosario, G
23 45 C. Prather, G-F