"Obama’s 23 Executive Actions on Gun Violence"

[DaveFla]

Funny. That's what everyone was saying all along, yet you needed clarification.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by DaveFla

Funny. That's what everyone was saying all along, yet you needed clarification.

yep, he and river wanted that one word answer so then they can bombard you with their questions instead of qualifing the "no" answer on the law.

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

yep, he and river wanted that one word answer so then they can bombard you with their questions instead of qualifing the "no" answer on the law.

No, I wanted a simple straightforward answer instead of people dancing around the question. Thank you DaveFla for providing that.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

No, I wanted a simple straightforward answer instead of people dancing around the question. Thank you DaveFla for providing that.

You want to make it look like people are dancing but they're not

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

You want to make it look like people are dancing but they're not

I wish I knew myself as well as you do. I'm still not sure what I should have for lunch, could you tell me what I want?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

I wish I knew myself as well as you do. I'm still not sure what I should have for lunch, could you tell me what I want?

crow?

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

crow?

Isn't that usually what you eat when you find out you were wrong about something? What was I wrong about here?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

Isn't that usually what you eat when you find out you were wrong about something? What was I wrong about here?

good one

[MastaG8r]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

crow?

Instant classic!

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

good one

So you weren't able to find anything? I did you the courtesy of looking up what you wrote and responding to what you actually said.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

So you weren't able to find anything? I did you the courtesy of looking up what you wrote and responding to what you actually said.

Hijack much?

[rpmGator]

So a nut steals a gun and uses it.

So rules on legal sales have to be changed. Got it.

Common sense, isnt the venue of the gun hater.

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Hijack much?

I take it that you still can't find anything I was wrong about in this thread.

I was willing to go through the entire thread to make sure that I didn't misrepresent you. Why are you unwilling to extend the same courtesy to me?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

I take it that you still can't find anything I was wrong about in this thread.

I was willing to go through the entire thread to make sure that I didn't misrepresent you. Why are you unwilling to extend the same courtesy to me?

I have no intentions of hijacking this thread with your feeble arguments

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

I have no intentions of hijacking this thread with your feeble arguments

My responding to your false claims is now hijacking a thread? Wouldn't the false claims be the hijacking of the thread?

[wcj786]

Originally Posted by rivergator

I agree. I'd love to hear the reasons from some who claim that doctor shouldn't be allowed to ask the question.

River, here is an example.

You have a child that is suspected to be abused.
His father had an altercation and was claimed to have abused his previous wife during a divorce case.
He was asked by the doctor during the child's examination if he had any weapons at home.
The father stated that he had both a rifle, shotgun and handgun.
The doctor recommended to the courts that the father no longer have any visitation rights to the child, as it was her belief that he was the perpetrator of the abuse, even though both the father and the child stated it was anoth kid on their street.

This actually happened on my street as I was growing up. I also was a witness to the child being beaten up by another kid 7 years older. Luckily, I told me dad about it when I asked why I never saw John any more. My dad told John's father and his lawyer was able to open the case back up and get the ruling overturned.

The whole thing hinged on the doctor who had a child killed by a driveby shooting. So, when she heard he had weapons in the house, she immediately made up her mind that it was the father who caused the abuse.

And, this happened in the late 70's. God forbid what would happen to the father now. He couldn't be prosecuted back then, because there was no evidence. In today's environment, it would not be a stretch to find him arrested and tried as a child abuser.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

My responding to your false claims is now hijacking a thread? Wouldn't the false claims be the hijacking of the thread?

Phil, for your psychological sanity let it go

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Phil, for your psychological sanity let it go

You falsely speculated on my motives, and I am the one who should let it go? I refuse to let you lie about me. You're just going to have to deal with it.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

You falsely speculated on my motives, and I am the one who should let it go? I refuse to let you lie about me. You're just going to have to deal with it.

no, really I'm not...honestly, really, no

[wcj786]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

Because everyone seems intent on avoiding answering it, yet complaining that Obama did answer it.

Do you think that doctors should be prohibited, by law, from asking this question?

If you think that doctors should be prohibited from asking this question, what is your justification for passing laws to prohibit this? If you don't think that we should be passing more laws to prohibit this, then why are people complaining so much that Obama agrees with them?

Phil, I will answer your question and give you my response back.

No, I don't think that a doctor should be prohibited by law from asking the question.

BUT, that same doctor SHOULD be prohibited by law from disclosing the answer, REGARDLESS of whether it is YES or NO, to any entity, whether that be government, employer, or anyone else. And, I believe that should be an amendment to The Constitution, so that the liberals can not change the law, if they ever get complete control of Congress.

Whether you think me paranoid or delusional, we all know that the vast majority of liberals in Congress are against the 2nd Amendment, so it behooves us to make sure, through any means necessary, to curtail their ability to remove even more of our rights.

It is not a stretch or a conspiracy theory to believe that the liberals would try and require doctors to disclose the answer to this question to the government, otherwise why would it even be an issue. With that said, IF they were able to force the doctors to disclose this, then they could force doctors to disclose other information, including your full medical history.

So, to recap, No, a doctor should not be prohibited from asking the question. But, the doctor SHOULD be prohibited from disclosing that information to any other entity.