Coach Meyer on Tim Tebow

[UFLAW81]

. "I think that his coaching transition is a big part of it, with the guy that drafted him in the first round getting fired immediately. "http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...meyer/1843049/

[geauxgator1]

Well, those of us who follow Tebow can probably agree he's had some unusual circumstances to deal with, not the least of which was the firing of Mcdaniels. I would agree with Meyer, but no great revealation there. Also, new coordinators every year, a club president that wanted him out, and a couple of stooges in NY didn't help. TT apparently didn't wow anybody in NY, but even if he did, i don't think the coaching staff wanted him. Hope he can find a club that will work with him. He makes the NFL more exciting to watch, good, bad or inbetween.

[hgators]

Did he add that Tim is one of his very best friends in the world?

[gator85jd]

What's been the biggest obstacle in the stalling career of NFL quarterback Tim Tebow?

It's that his college coach allowed Tim Tebow to be Tim Tebow and didn't demand that the quarterbacks coach work with him to develop his skills. Tebow will be perhaps the greatest football player ever at UF, but how did Tim improve from his freshman year to his senior year?

[secgator]

Originally Posted by gator85jd

What's been the biggest obstacle in the stalling career of NFL quarterback Tim Tebow?

It's that his college coach allowed Tim Tebow to be Tim Tebow and didn't demand that the quarterbacks coach work with him to develop his skills. Tebow will be perhaps the greatest football player ever at UF, but how did Tim improve from his freshman year to his senior year?

IMO, he improved his degree of patience---having to deal with some of the inept playcalling his senior year was atrocious. Whether it was Addazio or Urban calling them--most of the time they sucked. Yet Tim just did what was asked of him.

To me--that level of patience and tolerance was an improvement over what most other humans could deal with.

[atlantagator86]

I know some people won't like me taking this position, and I'm as big a fan of Tebow as there is, but the same argument that is being made for why Tebow hasn't had success in the NFL can be said about the vast majority of players that have ever played in the NFL. Very few guys land in the perfect situation.

Most NFL players have had to deal with coaching changes and not being in a system that is optimal for their skills. The ones who make it and stay in the league are the guys who make the most of the opportunities they get.

The bottom line is that when Tebow has been in games, he really hasn't done a whole lot up to now to take the job from anybody and he's been behind arguably the 2 worst starting QBs in the NFL.

[Spurffelbow833]

Originally Posted by atlantagator86

The bottom line is that when Tebow has been in games, he really hasn't done a whole lot up to now to take the job from anybody.

Did you even watch the Broncos in 2011?

[TheRaid]

Originally Posted by Spurffelbow833

Did you even watch the Broncos in 2011?

This.

it is remarkable how people show their ignorance and lack of having watched Tebow take a lousy team that got rid of their receives and hu
his coach and set him up to fail and yet took them to a playof win. Hasn't done anything? how absurd.

[theghost]

Originally Posted by Spurffelbow833

Did you even watch the Broncos in 2011?

Didn't he set an NFL record for only having 2 completions in a victory?

We all love Tebow, but how many NFL coaches & executives have to call a spade a spade before you start believing that he may not be a successful quarterback in the NFL? I would love to see him get another "chance"....but I also think John Elway and the many other NFL "people" who have chosen to take another route (other than going w/ Tebow) know what they are talking about. Look at Seattle; they traded for Flynn and he sat on the bench behind a 5'10 3rd round draft choice. Most of you act like it's some sort of conspiracy. These teams invest thousands of hours studying, scouting, and developing players. I'm going to believe that it's not some evil conspiracy...and maybe he's just not going to be an NFL QB.

[int1974]

Tim won 7 games and 1 playoff game, Gabbert won 2 games yet "No we don't want Tim in Jax" I want the 2 win QB with one of the worst ratings for a QB.

I thought it would take Tim 3 years to develope, and i still think he can win games in the NFL. Reps, Reps is what he is missing. Seeing all the different D's and learn each game.

[grant1]

[quote=gator85jd;6326577]What's been the biggest obstacle in the stalling career of NFL quarterback Tim Tebow?

It's that his college coach allowed Tim Tebow to be Tim Tebow and didn't demand that the quarterbacks coach work with him to develop his skills. Tebow will be perhaps the greatest football player ever at UF, but how did Tim improve from his freshman year to his senior year?[/QUOTE]

About as much as Cam Newton improved from the time he arrive to the time he left. I've alwasys maintained that we sorely lacked adequate QB coaching under Meyer.

[og8trz]

Please send me the worst QB coach in the Universe and let our QB's remain at the very same level for all 4 years if we can win 2 crystal footballs in 4 years!

Some of you guys believe what you read in the newspaper. Gorbachov would have loved you because you would have believed every word Pravda printed.

The reason Tim is "Controversial" and Ray Lewis is not is Tim's overt Christianity. Lewis very likely played a major role in two murders, but he is forgiven.

The fact is, Tim took over a woeful 1-4 team in Denver and the sheer force of his will, got them to, and won a playoff game. No one in America was praising Denver's defense or their WR's until they were faced with giving credit. They would rather stuff hot butter up a wildcat's fanny in a phone booth than attribute the wins to a practicing Christian.

If he doesnt' complete a single pass, but you win, what difference does that make? Billy Kilmer, Joe Kapp and Fran Tarkenton all had unusual styles, but won a lot of NFL games. Tim threw 88 TD's and 16 INT's at UF against SEC competition. I don't care if you punt it down there, that is exceptional!

He also did a great job of avoiding turnovers when he started for Denver. Ask Peyton Manning how important TO's can be!!

[superman2318]

He was worked with st uf. To the point of them hooking him up to a video game development type of computer that measured him and every flaw in his throwing motion. Its what helped him throw for 3200 yards. But after the ole miss lose, and lack luster play and UM noticed how uncomfortable he was, was when he told him to just go out there and have some fun, to just be Tim Tebow.

[Bushmaster]

The best thing for Tebow is to land somewhere with a high profile quarterback who is THE MAN. He has been on two teams where the chants started almost immediately because the current starter just sucked.

Green Bay, NE, NO are places he should seek out as their QBs are into their 30s, Tim could serve as a capable backup, learn how to hit the tight throws, and be allowed to develop without the pressure or qb controversy.

NFL guys aren't that smart. There are way more draft busts than successes. Hell, we have lists for draft busts there are so many of them, and not just at the QB position. But with draft busts, those guys were given a chance. Tim has not and has a winning record as a starter. No GM wants the Tebow drama on his team or locker room. Those three teams I mentioned wouldn't have that because Tebow would be the solid backup and no one would be screaming for him to start.

[elrongator]

I'd love to see how Belichick would utilize Tim.
Won't likely ever happen, but I'd love to see it.

[Jellyrolls]

Originally Posted by elrongator

I'd love to see how Belichick would utilize Tim.
Won't likely ever happen, but I'd love to see it.

I don't see that happening. Belichick has a gunslinger coming in after Brady.

[UFLAW81]

I'm not sure why the press is asking Corch Meyer about Tim anyway.
Give Corch Meyer some respect for even answering the questions.

[gatordee]

Originally Posted by atlantagator86

I know some people won't like me taking this position, and I'm as big a fan of Tebow as there is, but the same argument that is being made for why Tebow hasn't had success in the NFL can be said about the vast majority of players that have ever played in the NFL. Very few guys land in the perfect situation.

Most NFL players have had to deal with coaching changes and not being in a system that is optimal for their skills. The ones who make it and stay in the league are the guys who make the most of the opportunities they get.

The bottom line is that when Tebow has been in games, he really hasn't done a whole lot up to now to take the job from anybody and he's been behind arguably the 2 worst starting QBs in the NFL.

He took over a Denver team with a losing record and was one game from playing for the division championship. And he has yet been given a full year with a team to prove what he can do.

[atlantagator86]

Originally Posted by gatordee

He took over a Denver team with a losing record and was one game from playing for the division championship. And he has yet been given a full year with a team to prove what he can do.

Some of you guys kill me how you can you see just what you want to see.

Yes, Tebow took Denver to the playoffs and even won a wildcard playoff game. But too many of you are quick to credit Tebow alone for Denver's turnaround.

While everyone is quick to remember how Tebow turned Denver around, they forget that Denver lost their last 3 regular seasons games, getting blown out by New England and Buffalo and losing to KC and then getting blown out by New England again in the playoffs. The Broncos were 1-4 in their final 5 games last year, including 3 blowouts.

Plus, last year Tebow had a completion percentage of 46.5% and a QB rating of 72.9. No team is going to build their offense around a QB with a sub-50% completion percentage and QB rating that low.

And then fast forward to this year, the Broncos bring in Manning and go 13-3, the best record in the AFC, with largely the same team. Do any of you seriously think Elway made a mistake not building his team around Tebow?!?!

I believe the Denver improvement last year shows not so much how good Tebow is but how horrible Orton was.

I have little doubt that somebody will give Tebow a chance next year, but unlike many of you, I believe he will probably be brought in as a 3rd QB and have to take the job from whoever's in front of him. But NOBODY is going to bring Tebow in as the guy they build their offense around.

I honestly wouldn't be totally surprised to see a team like Washington, San Francisco, Seattle, Philly or Carolina pick up Tebow as a backup to their mobile QBs. How ironic would it be for Tebow to be Newton's back-up?!?!?!

[GatorStang]

Originally Posted by og8trz

Please send me the worst QB coach in the Universe and let our QB's remain at the very same level for all 4 years if we can win 2 crystal footballs in 4 years!

Some of you guys believe what you read in the newspaper. Gorbachov would have loved you because you would have believed every word Pravda printed.

The reason Tim is "Controversial" and Ray Lewis is not is Tim's overt Christianity. Lewis very likely played a major role in two murders, but he is forgiven.

The fact is, Tim took over a woeful 1-4 team in Denver and the sheer force of his will, got them to, and won a playoff game. No one in America was praising Denver's defense or their WR's until they were faced with giving credit. They would rather stuff hot butter up a wildcat's fanny in a phone booth than attribute the wins to a practicing Christian.

If he doesnt' complete a single pass, but you win, what difference does that make? Billy Kilmer, Joe Kapp and Fran Tarkenton all had unusual styles, but won a lot of NFL games. Tim threw 88 TD's and 16 INT's at UF against SEC competition. I don't care if you punt it down there, that is exceptional!

He also did a great job of avoiding turnovers when he started for Denver. Ask Peyton Manning how important TO's can be!!

Ignorance in bold... It has NOTHING to do with Tim being a Christian... have you not heard Lewis EVER speak? He's just as much a Christian as Tim, but Lewis is the "prototypical" LB where Tim was/is not a prototypical QB. That's why Ray gets love and Tim does not.

I want to Tim to just get a chance, let him do what these other kids get to do now because that's what he does best.