"Obama’s 23 Executive Actions on Gun Violence"

[Gatorrick22]

Originally Posted by rivergator

Well, there can be health and safety issues involved if you have guns and small kids. But the point is really simple: Obama did not order the doctors to do that. Limbaugh lied about it.

I don't trust one word Obama utters.

This is straight-up cold war Stasi police crap. What's next illegal drug testing on unsuspecting patients? Is this where Obama considers the ultimate "progressive" move for America? Is this part of the leftists' "Progressive movement?"

Is this Obama's next step?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ug-trials.html

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

Do you think that doctors should be prohibited, by law, from asking this question?

Why do you feel the need to repeat someone elses question?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by rivergator

that was a yes or no question and it isn't Emanuel's fault that you couldn't answer.

No, he shouldn't be prohibited by law but serves no purpose other than the doctor to report it to someone or some thing.

[MastaG8r]

Originally Posted by wargunfan

Do you believe the government should ever have access to this information?

Originally Posted by rivergator

every gun? no, I don't think so.

Originally Posted by wargunfan

I'll try again.

Originally Posted by rivergator

"No" wasn't clear enough for you? Is there some other word that's the opposite of 'yes?'

Oh please. Don't play obtuse. He asked for a yes or no answer just like you've been demanding, but you qualified your "no" with "every gun?" Obviously that implies that maybe you think the government should have access to doctors' information about some guns, if not every gun. So which guns should they be told about? The ones belonging to members of so-called "right wing extremist" organizations, perhaps?

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Why do you feel the need to repeat someone elses question?

Because everyone seems intent on avoiding answering it, yet complaining that Obama did answer it.

Do you think that doctors should be prohibited, by law, from asking this question?

If you think that doctors should be prohibited from asking this question, what is your justification for passing laws to prohibit this? If you don't think that we should be passing more laws to prohibit this, then why are people complaining so much that Obama agrees with them?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

Because everyone seems intent on avoiding answering it, yet complaining that Obama did answer it.

Do you think that doctors should be prohibited, by law, from asking this question?

If you think that doctors should be prohibited from asking this question, what is your justification for passing laws to prohibit this? If you don't think that we should be passing more laws to prohibit this, then why are people complaining so much that Obama agrees with them?

You might want to open your eyes because I answered the question. It should occur to you that some questions are not so black and white but I know how liberals like to play gotchya

[MastaG8r]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

Because everyone seems intent on avoiding answering it, yet complaining that Obama did answer it.

Do you think that doctors should be prohibited, by law, from asking this question?

If you think that doctors should be prohibited from asking this question, what is your justification for passing laws to prohibit this? If you don't think that we should be passing more laws to prohibit this, then why are people complaining so much that Obama agrees with them?

So you're going to join in this game of pretending it's all about whether doctors can ask the question, when we all know the real issue is what they can do with the answer? Under what circumstances should a doctor be allowed to share information about a patient's gun ownership with anyone, particularly the government?

[gatorman_07732]

Please make sure to consult your doctor when you are in the market to buy a firearm

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

Do you think that doctors should be prohibited, by law, from asking this question?

I do not think government can or even should try to control the content of the conversations with our doctors. That said, most of my conversations with my doctor are around medical issues. Over decades of conversations, gun ownership has never come up.

I also do not have gun ownership conversations with the guy that cuts my hair. Or the guys that mow my lawn. Or the cashier at Publix.

[wgbgator]

I think doctors are capable of discretion in choosing the relevant questions to ask to people, like any competent professional.

[gatorman_07732]

There are many issues of safety when it comes to homes and children such as chemicals, windows, pools, knives, electricity........so why the concerted effort to target firearms?

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

You might want to open your eyes because I answered the question. It should occur to you that some questions are not so black and white but I know how liberals like to play gotchya

Your response to the question:

I have a problem with this being in a executive order. Outside of my pediatrician asking I never had this asked to me before. I believe something else is going on here, this guy is slick. He thinks a lot like Rahm Emanuel and he has outed himself on this issue.

You state that you disagree with it being an executive order. You state that you have never had this asked of you other than by a pediatrician. You state that you believe something else is going on here and that Obama thinks a lot like Rahm Emanuel.

I don't see an answer to the question in there anywhere. Was there another post where you answered the question? When you say that you disagree with it being an executive order are you implicitly saying that you agree with Obama that doctors shouldn't be prohibited from asking the question?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

Your response to the question:


You state that you disagree with it being an executive order. You state that you have never had this asked of you other than by a pediatrician. You state that you believe something else is going on here and that Obama thinks a lot like Rahm Emanuel.

I don't see an answer to the question in there anywhere. Was there another post where you answered the question? When you say that you disagree with it being an executive order are you implicitly saying that you agree with Obama that doctors shouldn't be prohibited from asking the question?

Seriously, either you're blind or you're playing stupid so you need to keep looking. I answered it clearly after river starting whining at that answer.

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Seriously, either you're blind or you're playing stupid so you need to keep looking. I answered it clearly after river starting whining at that answer.

Ah yes, there it is. My apologies, I didn't think to look at the posts after the one that started this conversation.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

Ah yes, there it is. My apologies, I didn't think to look at the posts after the one that started this conversation.

I assume you are happy and were waiting for me to say yes so you can jump all over the conservative issue

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

I assume you are happy and were waiting for me to say yes so you can jump all over the conservative issue

Not particularly. More confused over why all the outrage over informing doctors that they aren't prohibited from asking the question if no one disagrees with this. I usually get outraged by things that I disagree with, rather than things that I agree with, but apparently I'm doing it wrong.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

Not particularly. More confused over why all the outrage over informing doctors that they aren't prohibited from asking the question if no one disagrees with this. I usually get outraged by things that I disagree with, rather than things that I agree with, but apparently I'm doing it wrong.

People have explained ad nauseum here, but it's an unwillingness absorb what they are saying in an effort to try to diffuse they're arguments.

[Gatoragman]

Liberals the kings of complaining about code words used by conservatives. Conservatives don't like something because it is a code word and liberals don't understand.
Hmmmm

[DaveFla]

Originally Posted by philnotfil

Because everyone seems intent on avoiding answering it, yet complaining that Obama did answer it.

Do you think that doctors should be prohibited, by law, from asking this question?

If you think that doctors should be prohibited from asking this question, what is your justification for passing laws to prohibit this? If you don't think that we should be passing more laws to prohibit this, then why are people complaining so much that Obama agrees with them?

Simple answer.

No. The doctor should never be prohibited, legally, from asking a patient that question.

No. The patient should never be legally obligated to answer the question.

Yes. The doctor should be legally prevented from disclosing the patients answer (HIPAA?)to ANYONE else, including the government-run healthcare.

Clear enough for you?

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by DaveFla

Simple answer.

No. The doctor should never be prohibited, legally, from asking a patient that question.

No. The patient should never be legally obligated to answer the question.

Yes. The doctor should be legally prevented from disclosing the patients answer (HIPAA?)to ANYONE else, including the government-run healthcare.

Clear enough for you?

Yes, thank you.