01-16-2013, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar
People like to use the 11-2 record as if it was all Driskel. 11-2 has as much to do with Kyle Christy, Matt Elam, Purifoy etc as it was with Driskel's play.
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I think people are just pointing out that if he was as terrible as some say, we wouldn't have been 11-2 regardless of how our defense played.
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01-16-2013, 02:31 AM
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#102
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Originally Posted by Gatorrick22
I'm not comparing the two - I'm pointing out the fact that players that were not great can get great in short order. Driskel has two more years to prove the doubters wrong.
Cut him some slack already. Not saying you are one of these people, but there are way too many fainting goats on posting on this subject/thread.
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Very true. Those same goats will be the first ones acting like they knew it the entire time when he proves them wrong.
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01-16-2013, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue
Both Kaepernick and Brady were good in college.
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Brady was a decent college QB but not great. There's a reason he was drafted where he was.
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01-16-2013, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DawgFanFromAlabam
He was #10 in the SEC in passing efficiency and #12 in passing yards per game. Some folks with better rankings had poor line/WR play too.
You guys said all off-season your Oline would be much improved. I questioned it and some of you agreed to wait until the season started. Perhaps waiting again before making the same claims would be reasonable again? Same goes for WRs.
Driskel seems to have the physical tools. Will he be a Gator great? Time will tell.
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Care to name these other QB?
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01-16-2013, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel
Driskel has a long way to go before him and Kaepernick can be mentioned in the same sentence.
I understand that Jeff clearly didn't have elite talent around him at the skill positions, and the pass blocking was once again suspect. That's not his fault, and I agree with Chris Leak that it's hard to do a whole lot when you don't have much around you. But there's something about Driskel's ability-or inability-to see the field that's disconcerting. He's very raw as a passer, locks onto receivers, his "mental clock" needs some serious work, and he routinely got away with some awful throws. His QB rating was actually similar to Leak's in his first season as a starter; only Driskel is obviously a far better runner.
The good news is that he's got all the talent in the world. With good coaching, improved play from the receivers and tight ends and better pass blocking I'm sure he'll be better. That recipe would make any QB better. Hopefully he'll sharpen up insofar as the mental aspect of the game is concerned. He needs work.
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I agree but it's hard to have a good mental clock when the pass rush is always on you.
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01-16-2013, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823
Brady was a decent college QB but not great. There's a reason he was drafted where he was.
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Right, I said "good," not "great." The oft-repeated narrative was that Brady was a nobody in college, and that isn't true.
He plummeted largely due to his combine performance / measurements.
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01-16-2013, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue
Right, I said "good," not "great." The oft-repeated narrative was that Brady was a nobody in college, and that isn't true.
He plummeted largely due to his combine performance / measurements.
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True. He was far from special as a Wolverine.
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01-16-2013, 07:57 AM
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But he was far from nothing. All Big 10 Honorable Mention, won the Big 10 in 1998.
What people like to say is that he barely played in college and when he did he played poorly. It isn't really true.
The combine really hurt Brady.
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01-16-2013, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by UFFL
He led the team to 11 wins in 13 tries. Sounds damn good to me
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Truth.
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01-16-2013, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823
Care to name these other QB?
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USCe had one less sack than UF, no WR in the top 100 in the nation yet Shaw was #3 in the SEC and 10th in the nation in passing efficiency.
Ole Miss had 5 less sacks and one WR in the top 100 (#69) yet Wallace was #7 in the SEC. Wallace was #37 in the nation, Driskel #61.
Murray's line was average and he had no WR in the top 100. He finished higher too. Bray, Tyler Wilson, Rodgers - their lines weren't great, they did have better WRs. Russell from MSU finished higher, his line was OK.
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01-16-2013, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel
True. He was far from special as a Wolverine.
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He did win an Orange Bowl.
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