Is Pete Carroll a Douche?

[ArtDeco]

Anyone get a look at Carroll on the sideline today? Hardly looked like a players' coach. Body language seemed to suggest disgust with his team. Called timeout then looked like "Why did you call timeout?" then threw the headset down and unplugged everything, even though there was still plenty of time left on the clock.
So, for these reasons or any others, is Pete Carroll a douche?

[VolsFan07]

Funny choices for the poll. HA.... HA......

[gator1986]

I've thought he was a douche since USC... JMO

[MtownGator]

Yes and yes - but he blew it - and I don't care -

Go Falcons

and hell for that matter he sucked at USC too

[newdad]

He did coach them to the playoffs, That makes him a large douche.

[The_Graygator]

A cheater at USC, and then ducked the pending NCAA investigation and sanctions like a coward by going to the pros.

Don't like him and was glad to watch him lose the way he did today too.

[Juggernautz]

Jury is still out, lol.

[CRIMDEFgator]

What do you mean? As a person? Probably yes, given what I have read about how he conducted himself at USC and how he left... but not at Kiffin level. As a coach? No! Won NC at USC and then took over the Seahawks that have been a league doormat forever (like Bucs before Gruden) and I frankly think if they had gotten a bye they might have won the Super Bowl. Great pick with that QB in the 3rd round... that team is flatout huge, fast and nasty at every position. To play back to back playoff road games like that, from 3000 miles away and come within a timeout missed FG of getting to the NFC title game is a sign he is not a douche, as far as coaching is concerned.

[GatorLaw]

Originally Posted by ArtDeco

Anyone get a look at Carroll on the sideline today? Hardly looked like a players' coach. Body language seemed to suggest disgust with his team. Called timeout then looked like "Why did you call timeout?" then threw the headset down and unplugged everything, even though there was still plenty of time left on the clock.
So, for these reasons or any others, is Pete Carroll a douche?

I know very little about him but I did watch the game today and didn't notice the body language you mention.

As for the time-out, my guess is that his problem wasn't with the fact that a time-out was called (seemed pretty clear he was the one who called it) but rather was because the time-out didn't get called until after the kicker tried the first kick (and missed!), which made the first kick a practice kick. The last thing any opposing coach wants to give to a kicker who he's trying to ice is a practice kick before the "real" kick.

Of course I have no idea whether the fault was the official's or Carroll's but Carroll certainly seemed to think it was the official (assuming that's what he was ranting about). In any event, somebody sure screwed up. Seattle would have won the game if the time-out hadn't been called.

[tilly]

Originally Posted by GatorLaw

I know very little about him but I did watch the game today and didn't notice the body language you mention.

As for the time-out, my guess is that he wasn't upset because a time-out was called. It seemed pretty clear that he was the one who wanted a time-out. I suspect his problem, and the reason he was upset, was because the time-out didn't get called until after the kicker tried the first kick (and missed!), which made the first kick became a practice kick. The last thing any opposing coach wants to give to a kicker who he's trying to ice is two chances to make the kick. It's like giving a golfer two chances to make a putt.

Of course I have no idea whether the fault was the official's or Carroll's but Carroll certainly seemed to think it was the official (assuming that's what he was ranting about). In any event, somebody sure screwed up. Seattle would have won the game if the time-out hadn't been called.

This.

Also the body language part is off base. After Lynch fumbled, Carrol was at the bench patting him on the head encouraging himto keep his head up. All accounts are his players love him.

Oh and get used to it. Hes building A Super Bowl contender.

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[faber]

Anyone remember when he gave the Dolphins the choke sign when he was coach of the JETS! Marino came back and kicked his ass. Maybe he can crash with Reggie Bush's parents on Pacific lol

[UGator]

Has he ever been punished or penalized for all the shenanigans that occurred at USC under his watch? Kiffen is not much of a coach IMHO, but most of the problems that he inherited was due to Carrol's irresponsibilities and the Reggie Bush fiasco. Maybe the NCAA should have buried them for awhile.

Should there be a rule that any college coach running off to the NFL to avoid sanctions should have to forfeit some $$ and also spend at least a year out of coaching? That might stop some of this crap because it sure seems to be rampant these days!

[NitroSmoke]

I noticed the headset deal and even mentioned it to my buddies. And I agree with Law about the timeout. But i think PC wanted a delay of game penalty as I thought the whistle seemed to blow well before he kicked it.

[bigkid12]

I've always thought he was a douche.

[cocodrilo]

I think there should be a new rule in the NFL, and college too for that matter. Whenever the opposing coach calls for a timeout just before a FG attempt, there should be a delay of game penalty, which will make the FG attempt 5 yards shorter.

[tilly]

Originally Posted by cocodrilo

I think there should be a new rule in the NFL, and college too for that matter. Whenever the opposing coach calls for a timeout just before a FG attempt, there should be a delay of game penalty, which will make the FG attempt 5 yards shorter.

If this becomes a rule, teams would sneak the FG team out on third and 3 forcing teams to call timeout...thus giving the offense a first down.

You cant penalize a team for using their timeouts. They have the right to use 3 per half, however they see fit.

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[UFFL]

Originally Posted by cocodrilo

I think there should be a new rule in the NFL, and college too for that matter. Whenever the opposing coach calls for a timeout just before a FG attempt, there should be a delay of game penalty, which will make the FG attempt 5 yards shorter.

Technically all time outs are a delay of game; they're just legal. I think it's better to not ice a kicker, because they're usually anticipating it

[magnafides]

Originally Posted by GatorLaw

Of course I have no idea whether the fault was the official's or Carroll's but Carroll certainly seemed to think it was the official (assuming that's what he was ranting about). In any event, somebody sure screwed up. Seattle would have won the game if the time-out hadn't been called.

I think Carroll was yelling at the official that the kicker wasn't penalized for doing a practice kick. The officials called the timeout well before the snap and the kicker went ahead and kicked it anyway. Does anyone know if there's an actual rule against that?

[cadillacattack]

Originally Posted by UGator

Has he ever been punished or penalized for all the shenanigans that occurred at USC under his watch? Kiffen is not much of a coach IMHO, but most of the problems that he inherited was due to Carrol's irresponsibilities and the Reggie Bush fiasco. Maybe the NCAA should have buried them for awhile.

Should there be a rule that any college coach running off to the NFL to avoid sanctions should have to forfeit some $$ and also spend at least a year out of coaching? That might stop some of this crap because it sure seems to be rampant these days!

agree with you about Coaches being able to skip-out on their responsibilities for creating a mess. Regarding Kiffen, I don't think he's really inherited any NCAA sanctions ... at least not yet. U$C has Appealed the sanctions for Football and has not had to implement them yet. Assuming the NCAA rules on the Appeal this spring, U$C would finally be forced to implement the Sanctions previously handed-down by the NCAA.

BTW - Carroll's decision to call a last-second timeout reminds me of Meyer .... sorry

[Dreamliner]

Isn't the bigger question, what happened to your defense, Pete ? What's your deal, man ? What's your deal ?