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**FlyingGatorII** · 01-14-2013, 09:59 AM

I kinda get the point that Meyer was very timid about OSU when on ESPN and Saban was around, then later said his team could hang with anyone, but as someone else pointed out, he immediately contradicted himself. Sounds like Urban speak as always to me. Anyway, like I tell all my pOSU friends..if you liked John Cooper, you will love Urban Meyer. Will own the Big 10 and lose any big bowl game he takes them to, especially against the SEC. I only hope Michigan can get his number like they did Cooper.

GatorAvatar · 01-14-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingGatorII

I kinda get the point that Meyer was very timid about OSU when on ESPN and Saban was around, then later said his team could hang with anyone, but as someone else pointed out, he immediately contradicted himself. Sounds like Urban speak as always to me. Anyway, like I tell all my pOSU friends..if you liked John Cooper, you will love Urban Meyer. Will own the Big 10 and lose any big bowl game he takes them to, especially against the SEC. I only hope Michigan can get his number like they did Cooper.

Urban Meyer will win Bowl games. Book it.

**FlyingGatorII** · 01-14-2013, 02:16 PM

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Urban Meyer will win Bowl games. Book it.

Not at pOSU against the SEC..Book that.

Jellyrolls · 01-14-2013, 02:33 PM

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Now that he's not in the same stadium as Saban. Now that he's not in the same city as Saban. Now that he's not in the same state as Saban. Now he is talking big. Not like the night of the BCSCG, when he didn't have much to say.

Meyer's not in the same galaxy as Saban.

GatorAvatar · 01-14-2013, 02:45 PM

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Not at pOSU against the SEC..Book that.

Wanna put some $ behind that declaration? Urban would kick Richt and Miles' posterior ends. Heck, if Muschamp doesn't learn from the SugarBowl ass kicking he got from Urban's disciple he would also have his ass handed to him.

**FlyingGatorII** · 01-14-2013, 04:44 PM

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Wanna put some $ behind that declaration? Urban would kick Richt and Miles' posterior ends. Heck, if Muschamp doesn't learn from the SugarBowl ass kicking he got from Urban's disciple he would also have his ass handed to him.

Not sure you are on the right board. Maybe Bucknuts would be a better fit for you. OSU this year would have been killed by UGA, LSU or UF in a Bowl game. While it's obvious the Gators found little to play for against Lousiville, playing against a Meyer coached team would have given them all the inspiration they needed. OSU has never beaten an SEC team. Maybe your hero breaks that streak but I don't see that happening against a Top SEC team. I will be glad to revisit this conversation the next time he gets a chance. I hope it is next year against UF for all the marbles but if not I will gladly watch Saban send him back to Panic City instead.

socraticsilence · 01-14-2013, 04:55 PM

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I kinda get the point that Meyer was very timid about OSU when on ESPN and Saban was around, then later said his team could hang with anyone, but as someone else pointed out, he immediately contradicted himself. Sounds like Urban speak as always to me. Anyway, like I tell all my pOSU friends..if you liked John Cooper, you will love Urban Meyer. Will own the Big 10 and lose any big bowl game he takes them to, especially against the SEC. I only hope Michigan can get his number like they did Cooper.

Don't mention Cooper when our current HCs record seems much more similar to him than Urban- Lose big bowl (check), can't beat major rival (check)

Spleezy · 01-14-2013, 05:01 PM

It's hilarious how 'fans' not only defend Meyer who is no longer our coach but take shots at our current coach in his defense. That's what make Meyer fan boys lose credibility as Gator fans vs. being Meyer fans.

orangeblueorangeblue · 01-14-2013, 05:22 PM

I sure wouldn't take a shot at Muschamp.

But Meyer is one of college football's top 3 or 4 coaches. It's incredibly ignorant to proclaim he wouldn't win any bowl game, particularly against the SEC.

**Minister_of_Information** · 01-14-2013, 05:26 PM

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Don't mention Cooper when our current HCs record seems much more similar to him than Urban- Lose big bowl (check), can't beat major rival (check)

Playa hata

**FlyingGatorII** · 01-14-2013, 05:58 PM

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I sure wouldn't take a shot at Muschamp.

But Meyer is one of college football's top 3 or 4 coaches. It's incredibly ignorant to proclaim he wouldn't win any bowl game, particularly against the SEC.

Meyer was one of college footballs top 3 or 4 coaches. Until he proves otherwise he is damaged goods that couldn't handle the pressure of his own success and broke a top program as a result. Going undefeated this year against a weak schedule at pOSU proves nothing. If he goes undefeated next year and wins it all I will agree with you. With OSU's post season record and his recent tendencies to flake out, I will believe it when I see it.

**FlyingGatorII** · 01-14-2013, 06:10 PM

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Don't mention Cooper when our current HCs record seems much more similar to him than Urban- Lose big bowl (check), can't beat major rival (check)

Champ is 1-1 in Bowl games right now. Even though it wasn't a BCS bowl, last years win against some posters here other favorite team here was pretty big IMO. Talk to me in a few years and let's see if Champ is in Cooper's category of 3-8 in bowl games. As far as beating rivals, Champ beat FSU, UT and LSU. Yes he is 0-2 against UGA but I think he turns that around next year. If not, then let the comparisons to Cooper begin.

Gatorrick22 · 01-14-2013, 06:18 PM

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Don't mention Cooper when our current HCs record seems much more similar to him than Urban- Lose big bowl (check), can't beat major rival (check)

Muschamp's 1-1 in bowl games. Urban lost to Michigan and 'bama.

demosthenes · 01-14-2013, 06:19 PM

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Meyer was one of college footballs top 3 or 4 coaches. Until he proves otherwise he is damaged goods that couldn't handle the pressure of his own success and broke a top program as a result. Going undefeated this year against a weak schedule at pOSU proves nothing. If he goes undefeated next year and wins it all I will agree with you. With OSU's post season record and his recent tendencies to flake out, I will believe it when I see it.

He has to win it all to make it there in your book? Wow.

If I'm hiring for a program, the order I would place calls goes something like this:
1. Saban
2a. Meyer
2b. Chip Kelly
4. Stoops/Sumlin/Muschamp/Spurrier
5. Petrino

Tebowism0823 · 01-14-2013, 06:24 PM

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Wanna put some $ behind that declaration? Urban would kick Richt and Miles' posterior ends. Heck, if Muschamp doesn't learn from the SugarBowl ass kicking he got from Urban's disciple he would also have his ass handed to him.

Urban's disciple? Strong was just fine before Meyer.

orangeblueorangeblue · 01-14-2013, 06:26 PM

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Meyer was one of college footballs top 3 or 4 coaches. Until he proves otherwise

Did you hit submit on this post in August of 2012?

Tebowism0823 · 01-14-2013, 06:28 PM

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He has to win it all to make it there in your book? Wow.

If I'm hiring for a program, the order I would place calls goes something like this:
1. Saban
2a. Meyer
2b. Chip Kelly
4. Stoops/Sumlin/Muschamp/Spurrier
5. Petrino

No Chris Petersen? I also wouldn't personally take Kelly over any of those coaches you have listed. He benefits from a no defense conference.

gator85jd · 01-14-2013, 08:09 PM

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Urban's disciple? Strong was just fine before Meyer.

True. Strong was coaching at UF during the Spurrier era and left for stints at Notre Dame and USC under Holtz before he came back to coach under Zook and stuck with the Gators during the Meyer era.

One question I've never seen answered is why Greg Mattison made such a hasty departure from Co-D Coordinator along with Strong to take a position coaching job with the Ravens only to end up at Michigan as DC. He was one hell of a coach during his time at UF.

Tebowism0823 · 01-14-2013, 08:25 PM

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True. Strong was coaching at UF during the Spurrier era and left for stints at Notre Dame and USC under Holtz before he came back to coach under Zook and stuck with the Gators during the Meyer era.

One question I've never seen answered is why Greg Mattison made such a hasty departure from Co-D Coordinator along with Strong to take a position coaching job with the Ravens only to end up at Michigan as DC. He was one hell of a coach during his time at UF.

I wondered that as well. I just assumed he preferred the NFL.

**FlyingGatorII** · 01-14-2013, 08:37 PM

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He has to win it all to make it there in your book? Wow.

If I'm hiring for a program, the order I would place calls goes something like this:
1. Saban
2a. Meyer
2b. Chip Kelly
4. Stoops/Sumlin/Muschamp/Spurrier
5. Petrino

Perhaps you missed what Meyer became after winning those 2 Natty's here but I did not. He fooled me once when he quit the first time, shame on him. Fooled me twice when he quit again after breaking the program, shame on me. When he suddenly found a cure after less than a year away that was the third time. Shame on anyone who thinks this guy even resembles the coach that won us all those games. If he wins all his games next year without any visits to the Panicdrom, I will put him back among the elite. Until then, as I said, he is damaged goods and not nearly what he was when he won here. YMMV