So when was the last time an opposing player scored 40 points at Rupp?

[NorthCaptivaGator]

Originally Posted by tommyuf21

It was hard to dislike the last two teams. Last year was self explanatory. The year before saw them make a lot of improvement and really grow into the final four team they became.

The 2009-2010 team with Cousins, Orton and Wall were infinitely unlikeable. From Cousins' bad attitude to Orton's dumb, blank stare, there wasn't a game that went by when I wanted to see their rear end handed to them. I'm eternally grateful to Huggins for insuring that they didn't hoist a trophy at the end of the tourney. Cousins' scowl at the end of that game was worth it. I always figured that he'd lose it one day and pull a Sprewell.

Your forgetting Jones, my least favorite player in a long time

[tommyuf21]

Originally Posted by NorthCaptivaGator

Your forgetting Jones, my least favorite player in a long time

A glaring omission. You are correct about him.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by MJGator8104

I haven't actually watched any UK games this season, do they have anyone as good at defense as Scottie or Boynton?

Yup. Noel. But no one that can guard a shooter.

I liked Terrance Jones. Misunderstood kid. Doesnt mean everyone has to though.

[HALLGATOR]

I thought Harrellson was a player that got a lot done by hard work. I don't think he was all that naturally gifted but he made up for it by going hard game after game.

[GatorJeff]

Originally Posted by dailydoublecat

Auburn player in the 80's but most famous was David Robinson when he was at Navy. He had 45
Jeff

To answer the OP's question, the last player to score at least 40 points at Rupp was LSU's Chris Jackson, who scored 41 points back in 1990. Jackson, Robinson and Turner are the only three to score 40 or more.

[oragator1]

Originally Posted by GatorJeff

To answer the OP's question, the last player to score at least 40 points at Rupp was LSU's Chris Jackson, who scored 41 points back in 1990. Jackson, Robinson and Turner are the only three to score 40 or more.

They got off light, he lit Hogtown up to the tune of 50+. lol

[GatorRade]

Originally Posted by themistocles

It might be better to switch off Boynton and Wilbekin.

Guarding a really difficult opponent tends to reduce one's offensive efficiency, and for Boynton to be saddled with that task an entire game may prove detrimental to team scoring.

Wilbekin is also a stud defender, as are, almost all the Gators who play, except Rosario and the frosh.

Certainly a point worth considering.

[ahudson]

johnny basketball

[GothamGator]

Chris Jackson was a ridiculous scorning machine in college. When he got it going, you could put 3 guys on him and it would not matter.

Kentucky simply doesn't have the upperclassmen this year. You can't contend nationally without some experienced guys in the mix.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by GothamGator

Chris Jackson was a ridiculous scorning machine in college. When he got it going, you could put 3 guys on him and it would not matter.

Kentucky simply doesn't have the upperclassmen this year. You can't contend nationally without some experienced guys in the mix.

Thats hard to deny, but I still think our biggest problem is just not having players that are as good as those of previous teams. If you look at each position over the course of the last 4 years, we have the worst player at each spot with the only exception being Noel (who I reluctantly give the edge to over Harrelson). Let me reiterate here, not just a lack of the best player at a position, the worst. Wall, Knight, Teague, Harrow. Lamb, Bledsoe, Goodwin. MKG, Miller, Poythress (this is the big disappointment). Jones, Patterson, WCS. Davis, Cousins, Noel, Harrelson. I think this is our biggest problem. Add to it our bench being the worst and the team experience being the worst.

I agree experience helps. Miller was key for us last year in hitting big shots and stopping the other teams momentum. I just think our problems are bigger than that. Hell, put Miller back on this team and he's probably our best player - after Noel who's primarily big defensively, not on O. If Miller would be our best player this year, think about what that says about the players we have (no disrespect to DM).

BTW, agree with the above post commending Harrelson. He's my favorite player of the last few years.

[tommyuf21]

Herein lies the gamble with talented freshman, eventually you crap out. Every single one of them is not going always be as good as they are touted to be and you can't know for certain what you have until its too late. I'm sure Cal would love to make a trade or go to the waiver wire and see what's out there that someone doesn't want, but this isn't the NBA. You have to run what you brung (to use an old Nascar cliche).

Still, if crapping out, means an NCAA tourney berth, that's not too bad. Just seems like a lot of UK fans expect what happened last year to be an annual occurence and that's were the problem lies.

[BEH]

Originally Posted by GatorLurker

UK is looking more and more irrelevant every game. I was expecting them to be playing better by now just based on talent and coaching. I don't see it happening. They are playing like a team that will make the NCAA's, but not the second weekend.

Still early in the season, though. Two years ago they looked terrible early on and played much better late.

I agree. I don't see UK gelling like year before last. UK does not seem to have a player or two that they can go to.

I still am holding out for a miracle.

[BEH]

Originally Posted by tommyuf21

Herein lies the gamble with talented freshman, eventually you crap out. Every single one of them is not going always be as good as they are touted to be and you can't know for certain what you have until its too late. I'm sure Cal would love to make a trade or go to the waiver wire and see what's out there that someone doesn't want, but this isn't the NBA. You have to run what you brung (to use an old Nascar cliche).

Still, if crapping out, means an NCAA tourney berth, that's not too bad. Just seems like a lot of UK fans expect what happened last year to be an annual occurence and that's were the problem lies.

That last paragraph is not a problem at all. All my life I look at the next year and expect wonders until reality sets in. However, 5 times my expectations were realized. And every year those problem causers fill up Rupp. Only place in the SEC that does that.

"Wait 'till next year!"

[REM08]

Originally Posted by tommyuf21

Herein lies the gamble with talented freshman, eventually you crap out. Every single one of them is not going always be as good as they are touted to be and you can't know for certain what you have until its too late. I'm sure Cal would love to make a trade or go to the waiver wire and see what's out there that someone doesn't want, but this isn't the NBA. You have to run what you brung (to use an old Nascar cliche).

Still, if crapping out, means an NCAA tourney berth, that's not too bad. Just seems like a lot of UK fans expect what happened last year to be an annual occurence and that's were the problem lies.

Agree also. Freshmen need to not only be close to as good as touted, but then be able to mesh and buy in to the kind of effort and sacrifice that is needed in college. When a year comes along that doesn't do any of these things, its gonna be rough.

Don't get me started on UK fan expectations. There are lots of rational ones, but there is a scary amount of crazies. There are posts on UK boards about "See, one and dones don't work!" Its crazy. The rational ones can put this season in perspective. But its not the rational fans (usually) that camp out and pack rupp for midnight madness either I guess.

[gatorbogey]

not gonna have too many one and doners this season for UK. but that might be good for the long term in getting guys into the system w/ some 'season' to them. i think the problem is not having guys that can tell the newcomers 'this is how we do it here'. we found that out after the '04's left. need those players to add some continuity to the program - and make the coach's job easier.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by gatorbogey

not gonna have too many one and doners this season for UK. but that might be good for the long term in getting guys into the system w/ some 'season' to them. i think the problem is not having guys that can tell the newcomers 'this is how we do it here'. we found that out after the '04's left. need those players to add some continuity to the program - and make the coach's job easier.

Think you're right about the "this is how we do things here" comment. Either the freshmen better come in with that kind of mindset from the begining (Brandon Knight and MKG did) or they better have a teammate who can tell them. Also, and possible somewhat like the UF team after the 04's, some freshmen on this team came in thinking they were coming off a title. Cauley-Stein recently said that "we practically thought we'd won that title."

Unfortunately, the NBA drafts on potential much of the time - and this is a very down year. I think its still likely 3 or 4 leave and are drafted high just based on potential because there aren't tons of great options. We'll see.

[tommyuf21]

Based on the mocks I've seen (take them for what they are worth), Noel, WCS and Goodwin are pretty much automatic.

Poythress may hang around, but he disappeared from the board, so I don't know what to make of that. Harrow will also stay too.

[Noahtogo24]

Rem I curious, what do you see happening to Ryan Harrow for next season. As of now, he is not a first round pick. However, if he comes back next season, he is going to lose his spot to Harrison. Do you think he is going to mind coming off the bench next season?

[HALLGATOR]

The question I have for the Kentucky fans on here is if no players on this year's team turned pro would there still be scholarships available for the one coming in next year?

[dailydoublecat]

Originally Posted by HALLGATOR

The question I have for the Kentucky fans on here is if no players on this year's team turned pro would there still be scholarships available for the one coming in next year?

Ive been told YES--but dont ask me the logistics, LOL. This may sound cruel but Im not sure I "WANT" some of these to stick around.

Jeff