01-14-2013, 03:57 AM
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Given all the arrests of former players in Gainesville, don't think I'd be spending time there except on game day.
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I was stalked by GPD on numerous occasions when I was living in Gainesville from 2005-2008. As a result I left town for good and have never gone back.
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01-14-2013, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar
I was stalked by GPD on numerous occasions when I was living in Gainesville from 2005-2008. As a result I left town for good and have never gone back.
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You probably deserved it
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01-14-2013, 05:59 AM
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Rainey needs to more to Lehigh Acres,the cops do nothing to criminals.
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01-14-2013, 06:33 AM
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The Internet is full of conspiracy theory folk who blame the police for individual misconduct.
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01-14-2013, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Graygator
Starting to sound to me like a lot of the stuff I hear that goes on in my town. Guy has his baby-momma at home and she has a fight with her sugar daddy, there's a relatively immautre little shuffle and yelling match, the girl loses, so she calls the cops to get even, and then realizes she's tossing her sugar-daddy in the pokey and recants her story. 
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"Baby mama" and "sugar daddy," you say?
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01-14-2013, 08:03 AM
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If this 2nd report witness is true, why are so many people jumping on Chris? Pulling a backpack off the girl is no crime and "growing up" is not warranted. GPD has had a hard on for UF football players since the '80s. it's their culture.
And why would the 2nd girl lie? Because she wants to stick up for him? Right, she's go to risk criminal charges for lying to the cops for a neighbor.
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01-14-2013, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823
Or the witnesses are taking his side. This is the 2nd time this has happened. There's a pattern and it's not crooked cops.
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No offense, but that is a bizarre interpretation for anyone not on GPD.
I'd say there is at least a 90% chance GPD decided what happened, and fitted their report to their preconceived result, contradicting the girl friend's report and the reported lack of physical evidence, then refused to accept any other witness reports that contradicted their report.
There is very little chance of witnesses taking time out of their lives to get involved unless they know the police report is way off base. If it turns out that Rainey knows all the witnesses on his behalf, I'd reconsider tht position. Otherwise, what we have here is very unprofessional police work... effectively a false report... with the potential to cost Rainey millions of dollars.
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01-14-2013, 10:28 AM
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If he loses his 'job' as a result, he may be able to find an attorney who will sue the GPD(probably wouldn't win, but maybe the attorney will take it on a contingency basis) they would probably help back off the GPD. JMO.
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01-14-2013, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823
I could go with this. The only issue I'd still have is he continues to put himself in these type of situations. Just like Big Ben, whether he did it or not, he continued to put himself in those type of situations. It's not hard to avoid them. Most do it every day.
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If you are in a position where you can (1) pick a girlfriend who isn't prone to drama (2) live your life where you avoid all contact with the opposite sex unless there is always a friendly witness, then I would say you're doing the impossible.
The report didn't say Rainey was hanging out in a ghetto, or in a strip club. There was no posse of bad guys around him. He was with a girl who was his girlfriend.
I have had people in my town go through a nasty divorce where one parent will call DCF/911 on the other parent for child endangerment, how productive is that? There was a surgeon I knew who would not go into a room alone with a woman, not even to look at her wrist, because his colleague was once wrongly accused of fondling someone .
So I'm sure Chris appreciates your advice, but if you're telling him to join the monastery, I think he'll pass.
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01-14-2013, 01:27 PM
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No offense, but that is a bizarre interpretation for anyone not on GPD.
I'd say there is at least a 90% chance GPD decided what happened, and fitted their report to their preconceived result, contradicting the girl friend's report and the reported lack of physical evidence, then refused to accept any other witness reports that contradicted their report.
There is very little chance of witnesses taking time out of their lives to get involved unless they know the police report is way off base. If it turns out that Rainey knows all the witnesses on his behalf, I'd reconsider tht position. Otherwise, what we have here is very unprofessional police work... effectively a false report... with the potential to cost Rainey millions of dollars.
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NO argument here if that's all true but there is a pattern so......
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01-14-2013, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by grant1
If this 2nd report witness is true, why are so many people jumping on Chris? Pulling a backpack off the girl is no crime and "growing up" is not warranted. GPD has had a hard on for UF football players since the '80s. it's their culture.
And why would the 2nd girl lie? Because she wants to stick up for him? Right, she's go to risk criminal charges for lying to the cops for a neighbor.
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So you're saying people don't lie to help others out? Not saying thats the case for sure but it could very well be. Also, I find it hard that the GPD has it out for our players when its such a low % of them getting in trouble; mainly over ILLEGAL drugs.
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01-14-2013, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Billygator76
If he loses his 'job' as a result, he may be able to find an attorney who will sue the GPD(probably wouldn't win, but maybe the attorney will take it on a contingency basis) they would probably help back off the GPD. JMO.
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I think more appropriately would be to sue the Steelers since an arrest is not a conviction???
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01-14-2013, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtDeco
If you are in a position where you can (1) pick a girlfriend who isn't prone to drama (2) live your life where you avoid all contact with the opposite sex unless there is always a friendly witness, then I would say you're doing the impossible.
The report didn't say Rainey was hanging out in a ghetto, or in a strip club. There was no posse of bad guys around him. He was with a girl who was his girlfriend.
I have had people in my town go through a nasty divorce where one parent will call DCF/911 on the other parent for child endangerment, how productive is that? There was a surgeon I knew who would not go into a room alone with a woman, not even to look at her wrist, because his colleague was once wrongly accused of fondling someone .
So I'm sure Chris appreciates your advice, but if you're telling him to join the monastery, I think he'll pass.
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Monastery? It's called being mature. Who mentioned a ghetto? I said he continues to put himself in these situations. You mean to tell me Chris cant decide to date a woman who isn't into drama? Surely he can tell which ones will be a hot mess before hand. The examples you gave are irrelevant to Chris's story seeing how they have no bearing on Chris's judgement. It's very easy to stay away from drama and the cops. Most do it everyday.
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01-14-2013, 01:38 PM
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I think more appropriately would be to sue the Steelers since an arrest is not a conviction???
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Did they actually state the reasoning for him being let go?
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01-14-2013, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823
Did they actually state the reasoning for him being let go?
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I don't know. I haven't had a chance to read the latest story. I am not saying one way or the other if RAiney is guilty or not. I truly don't know. He is prone to some idiocy, however. I hope he did not do this.
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01-14-2013, 02:01 PM
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Some cops are brave, honorable men. Some are bullying pricks who like to put people in their place. Luck of the draw who you get when you dial 911.
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01-14-2013, 02:11 PM
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I don't know. I haven't had a chance to read the latest story. I am not saying one way or the other if RAiney is guilty or not. I truly don't know. He is prone to some idiocy, however. I hope he did not do this.
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Me either. He's better than all this drama.
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01-14-2013, 02:21 PM
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If this incident involved an FSU player, or former player, Gatorcountry posters would condemn FSU's players and coaches, FSU's athletic department and its administration.
We are hypocrites when it comes to UF.
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01-14-2013, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823
NO argument here if that's all true but there is a pattern so......
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I agree there is a pattern to Chris being involved in too much drama with women. He was way over the top with the texting incident, for sure.
As far as I know there's never been a report of him actually putting his hands on a woman, though. Not saying it hasn't happened (we don't know what we don't know), but I don't see that type of pattern. At least not yet.
Just being involved in too much drama is likely to lead to a situation where it happens though... even if only in self defense from some overly dramatic woman that he's involved with.
And there are some crazy women out there too. I think this is probably about Chris being immature and screwing around on his girl friend, but it's not always the guy causing all the problems. One time I had one seemingly normal woman stalking me and stirring up chit after one freaking date.
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01-14-2013, 02:40 PM
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If this incident involved an FSU player, or former player, Gatorcountry posters would condemn FSU's players and coaches, FSU's athletic department and its administration.
We are hypocrites when it comes to UF.
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Actually, if there were witnesses contradicting the police report, I'd consider their witness reports... even if they were from Noles.
But most probably would assume the formal player is guilty. You are correct on that.
Not sure how coaches, AD and administration could be brought into this. No doubt we can be hypocrites, but that's a bit of hyperbole. For effect, I'm sure.
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