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Old 01-12-2013, 05:04 PM   #141
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Entirely right.

We know the government asked Disney to cooperate with propaganda in WWII, so that clearly is incontrovertible prove that Disney employees staged this entire event while the government turned a blind eye. After all, Disney controls a large portion of the media and they benefit the most from keeping children pent up and cooped up inside their parents' homes, needing entertainment.

I'm thinking the real perpetrator was probably Gaston (the evil French dude from Beauty & the Beast). The MIC has spent untold amounts of money on creating elite assassins from childhood cartoons (after all, who'd suspect them?!) and Sandy Hook was the product of all this. Gaston had the best shot out of all the Disney cartoon characters.
Exhibit 1:

Government apologist deflection through mindless nonsense.

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To get people to stop reading the thread.

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Old 01-12-2013, 05:06 PM   #142
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LOL, FOIA to get access to the evidence. True Believer talk.
Of course you'd scoff at it. You've never tried it and it's farrrr easier to sit back and say "lol" then to get off your ass and take the time to do it. If you're truly interested in "the truth" and in proving that the government is lying, then you'd think you'd jump at the opportunity.
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:08 PM   #143
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Exhibit 1:

Government apologist deflection through mindless nonsense.

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LOL!
Says the Disney apologist. Your obsession with Snow White prevents you from thinking objectively and it's readily transparent in the way you leap to Disney's defense at every available occasion.
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:15 PM   #144
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:18 PM   #145
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:05 PM   #147
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Would you expect him to somehow behave normally or rationally? I think anyone who's daughter was shot and murdered would be prone to exhibit strange behavior. It's just about the most emotionally extreme situation I can imagine.


"Normal" for the circumstances......yes, I expect someone not to laugh and giggle before going into grief mode when the cameras are turned on


did you watch the video?
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Strange it may be...but it's still ONE parent. The other 19 or so parents haven't exhibited anything other than crushing grief one would more or less expect from a parent in that situation.

If you're wanting an example of how someone can go quickly from a jovial emotion to sadness relatively quickly...consider this: a popular NCO goes down within his combat unit and a number of guys are shaken up about it. The unit itself is still in a combat zone and a firefight is still going on. The next-highest ranking NCO is expected to step in and lead and does so, getting everyone refocused and the squad out of there. On the way out, the new ranking NCO starts going up to people, cracking jokes, smiling, getting everyone's minds off dwelling on it. The entire time the NCO is with his unit, he manages to keep smiling and a positive attitude...but when he gets back to the base and to a private corner, he breaks down with grief that he suppressed until that point.

Bottom line: most people try and cheer others up when they're sad and it's not strange even for a person in extreme grief to find something to smile about. When reminded of the grief again, it floods back. Grief and sadness are tricky to predict and people react in all sorts of different ways to it.
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Voice of reason. AGAIN.
So now we are considering that a combat situation with highly trained soldiers is the same as a parent losing a child being killed in a random act of violence in a school


and that's considered reasonable?
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So now we are considering that a combat situation with highly trained soldiers is the same as a parent losing a child being killed in a random act of violence in a school

and that's considered reasonable?
There is no training for grief. Some can push it away for a time while focusing on something else, but it will return.

Obviously, no situation is comparable to losing one's child--even losing a close friend in combat. But that wasn't the question. The question was wondering if it were possible to so quickly to change emotions from one of relative joviality to solemness, then grief in a fairly rapid time frame without it being acting. Since you're not exactly questioning the example I gave, one would think it's reasonable to conclude that it is very possible to rapidly change emotions without it being acting.
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There is no training for grief. Some can push it away for a time while focusing on something else, but it will return.

Obviously, no situation is comparable to losing one's child--even losing a close friend in combat. But that wasn't the question. The question was wondering if it were possible to so quickly to change emotions from one of relative joviality to solemness, then grief in a fairly rapid time frame without it being acting. Since you're not exactly questioning the example I gave, one would think it's reasonable to conclude that it is very possible to rapidly change emotions without it being acting.

even if I agree with what you are saying....did you watch the video?


what about the photograph evidence. girl is supposed to be dead and they show a family photo with the girl in it and it was obviously a photoshopped image taken from a photo with Barrack Obama 3 days after the girl was killed.

and the father in the photo going from laughing to a somber speech after taking a few "stage breaths"

did you watch the video?


it looks like acting


I showed the video to my wife starting it from only from where they show the father in line stepping up....without any pretext of the conspiracy (of which she was not aware). I stopped it after a few sentences into his "speech"

she asked legitimately after seeing it "that's an actor?"
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even if I agree with what you are saying....did you watch the video?


what about the photograph evidence. girl is supposed to be dead and they show a family photo with the girl in it and it was obviously a photoshopped image taken from a photo with Barrack Obama 3 days after the girl was killed.

and the father in the photo going from laughing to a somber speech after taking a few "stage breaths"

did you watch the video?


it looks like acting


I showed the video to my wife starting it from only from where they show the father in line stepping up....without any pretext of the conspiracy (of which she was not aware). I stopped it after a few sentences into his "speech"

she asked legitimately after seeing it "that's an actor?"


I don't think any of those in this thread defending the father's reaction actually watched his reaction in that clip. Laughing while walking up to the mic and then suddenly going into "grief" mode. He had to work himself up...after his kid was murdered in a classroom? Like I said, no one in their right mind would believe he wasn't in on something had this girl simply been missing. He reminded me of those parents that gives a statement like that after their child goes missing and then become the prime suspect in the kid's disappearance.



Watch the other clips as well. Almost every reaction is bizarre.

- Father's strange reaction
- Strange reaction of other's
- Car was supposed to be the killer's and it wasn't
- Kid says they heard no gunshots
- The picture of the girl wearing the same dress as the Obama photo-op
- How about the fact that this particular girl isn't in ANY of the class pictures?
- Both locations (Aurora and Sandy Hook) are mentioned in the Batman movie.


And now have you noticed that no one seems to give a crap about this shooting in the media? It's all gun control, gun control, and more gun control. Agenda accomplished.



All of those kids (and the adults) are alive, IMO. There was supposedly 20+ kids that were killed in this heinous crime but we've heard from less than 5 families. What about the others? Why are the families all hardcore gun control advocates? Why don't they want to know more about the background of this crazy shooter? Why don't they specifically mention keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally unstable as opposed to their agenda of taking ALL GUNS from law-abiding citizens? Because this is a government plot meant to further the gun control agenda. We've seen shootings at all levels of school prior to this and they haven't been able to pass gun control legislation. This "shooting" allows them to further that agenda and make the NRA look like a bunch of crazy loons for not supporting it knowing that kids were supposedly involved in this.


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Strange reactions during an unfathomable situation (to most) should not only be understandable, but perhaps expected.

Not having looked into it but having an actual dispatcher in the family, I'm betting the car is chatter from an unrelated traffic stop. That was his first rebuttal when I brought this up. All other police business doesn't stop. It could've been something going on an hour away from the school.

The dress has been debated on this very thread. Sisters wearing the same or similar dresses is hardly unusual.

The school had like 600 students. It's not a one room log cabin. And kids not recognizing gunfire from a distance is also not weird, it's refreshing. Some of the adults didn't either. The woman who worked in the main office interviewed on 60 Minutes also didn't realize it was gunfire initially.

"Aurora" does NOT appear in Batman. "Sandy Hook" does. This is discussed thoroughly on another thread.

I too haven't seen a class photo including Emilie. I also haven't seen all photos. The photos from her and two dozen or so funerals are enough for me.

Why is the stuff you get from various Internet sites, some glaringly erroneous, so trustworthy? Why aren't these jokers trying to pull one over on you? Maybe they constitute a conspiracy of their own?

And yet as a certain piece of the conspiracy unravels, it's just discarded and forgotten. It doesn't harm the conspiracy's merit, it's just removed and the parts that haven't been extinguished move on and others take their place. Once a conspiracy is given life, it's Vampire-like in its immortality.

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Strange reactions during an unfathomable situation (to most) should not only be understandable, but perhaps expected.

Not having looked into it but having an actual dispatcher in the family, I'm betting the car is chatter from an unrelated traffic stop. That was his first rebuttal when I brought this up. All other police business doesn't stop. It could've been something going on an hour away from the school.

The dress has been debated on this very thread. Sisters wearing the same or similar dresses is hardly unusual.

The school had like 600 students. It's not a one room log cabin. And kids not recognizing gunfire from a distance is also not weird, it's refreshing. Some of the adults didn't either. The woman who worked in the main office interviewed on 60 Minutes also didn't realize it was gunfire initially.

"Aurora" does NOT appear in Batman. "Sandy Hook" does. This is discussed thoroughly on another thread.

I too haven't seen a class photo including Emilie. I also haven't seen all photos. The photos from her and two dozen or so funerals are enough for me.

Why is the stuff you get from various Internet sites, some glaringly erroneous, so trustworthy? Why aren't these jokers trying to pull one over on you? Maybe they constitute a conspiracy of their own?

And yet as a certain piece of the conspiracy unravels, it's just discarded and forgotten. It doesn't harm the conspiracy's merit, it's just removed and the parts that haven't been extinguished move on and others take their place. Once a conspiracy is given life, it's Vampire-like in its immortality.

Conspiracies exist. But not everything is a conspiracy.


Is that not "Aurora" right there on top of the building?

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Old 01-13-2013, 11:58 PM   #157
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What about the funeral workers? And the open casket funerals? And the burials? All faked?
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And all this? Window dressing? Part of the propaganda machine? Outright lies to sell a gun control tsunami THAT HASN'T HAPPENED?

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...am-open-casket
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Is that not "Aurora" right there on top of the building?

Looks like it to me. Do you know at what time it appears in the movie?
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Is that not "Aurora" right there on top of the building?

It sure is. And what movie is that from?
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