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MichaelJoeWilliamson · 01-12-2013, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorSaint

Scared much?

Not at all

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I assume we could make a case for shoulder-fired SAM missiles because the 2nd Amendments says the right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

You know, in case the black helicopters start circling.

We are choking on the straw you are piling on man.

MichaelJoeWilliamson · 01-12-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HALLGATOR

Do all states require you to register guns? And how many unregistered guns do you believe are out there? I would guess it to be in the 10s or maybe the 100s of millions.

The name and address of the buyer purchasing a new gun sale is required to be registered with the BATF. There are other states that require re-registration of handguns when used ones are bought and sold. And there are a few states that require the registrations of all guns bought and sold, new and used.

**bluelang** · 01-12-2013, 02:48 PM

Putting up a sign saying you have guns in the house is a great way to get your guns stolen.

**gator1986** · 01-12-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bluelang

Putting up a sign saying you have guns in the house is a great way to get your guns stolen.

Well if someone tried to break into my house to steal, my guns, I would simply just shoot them... Problem solved... Lol

MichaelJoeWilliamson · 01-12-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bluelang

Putting up a sign saying you have guns in the house is a great way to get your guns stolen.

As long as the robber is willing to take a risk the owner won't be home.

Home burglars have often said they like to rob homes where there are no guns. That said, there are some criminals that WANT to steal guns and are willing to take a risk

For them here is another good sign;

gatordavisl · 01-12-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gator1986

Well if someone tried to break into my house to steal, my guns, I would simply just shoot them... Problem solved... Lol

Better stay at home. Some robbers can actually tell when nobody is home.

HALLGATOR · 01-12-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelJoeWilliamson

The name and address of the buyer purchasing a new gun sale is required to be registered with the BATF. There are other states that require re-registration of handguns when used ones are bought and sold. And there are a few states that require the registrations of all guns bought and sold, new and used.

It seems to me then that the best way to purchase a gun would be from an individual or at a gun show. Why let the government know what you are buying if there is fear they are going to take them away from you and they know you have them? Don't let one hand know what the other is doing comes to mind.

MichaelJoeWilliamson · 01-12-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HALLGATOR

It seems to me then that the best way to purchase a gun would be from an individual or at a gun show. Why let the government know what you are buying if there is fear they are going to take them away from you and they know you have them? Don't let one hand know what the other is doing comes to mind.

Yep. And in Florida and Georgia, (and many other states), you can buy any used weapon at a FFL dealer, handgun or long gun, and it won't be registered, even though there is a background check. To be sure, the sale is recorded in in the FFL dealer books, but the data is not collected by any state or federal agency.

**Minister_of_Information** · 01-12-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorSaint

Scared much?

I assume we could make a case for shoulder-fired SAM missiles because the 2nd Amendments says the right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

You know, in case the black helicopters start circling.

I don't much like the argument that there is nothing to fear but even if there was, there's nothing you can do about it anyway. Seems like a rationalized emotional subtext of government worship and contempt for the common man.

**RealGatorFan** · 01-12-2013, 03:34 PM

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Claims of impending government confiscation of firearms.

Weinstein has mentioned it and it's her current draft of her assault rifle ban, which by the way has over 1,000 weapons on it. I didn't know there were so many assault weapons like the Mossberg 500 or my S&W .40. Another part of her bill includes a provision to only allow the original owner the rights to the gun. So if you have an AR15 today, the gun is claimed by the state upon your death. It won't be a valid inheritance gift.

rivergator · 01-12-2013, 03:41 PM

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Weinstein has mentioned it and it's her current draft of her assault rifle ban, which by the way has over 1,000 weapons on it. I didn't know there were so many assault weapons like the Mossberg 500 or my S&W .40. Another part of her bill includes a provision to only allow the original owner the rights to the gun. So if you have an AR15 today, the gun is claimed by the state upon your death. It won't be a valid inheritance gift.

If you mean Dianne Feinstein, you're mistaken about confiscation and the number of weapons.

northgagator · 01-12-2013, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gatordavisl

Better stay at home. Some robbers can actually tell when nobody is home.

Not a good idea. Home invasion appear to be on the rise could be due to homeowners:
1, Knowing the location of the safe.
2, The combination
3, Having the keys to the cars.
4, Having the ATM and credits cards and PIN numbers.

**gatorman_07732** · 01-12-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rivergator

If you mean Dianne Feinstein, you're mistaken about confiscation and the number of weapons.

Do you research anything?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/io...matic-weapons/

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Iowa lawmaker calls for retroactive gun ban, confiscation of semi-automatic weapons

**RealGatorFan** · 01-12-2013, 04:04 PM

Yep 1K is a bit over-zealous even for her:-) I meant over 100. Still, her 100 includes:

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Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics

Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.

Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.

Prohibits the transfer of “assault weapons.” Owners of other firearms, including those covered by the NFA, are permitted to sell them or pass them to heirs. However, under Feinstein’s new bill, “assault weapons” would remain with their current owners until their deaths, at which point they would be forfeited to the government.

I haven't found this anywhere so was it in her original 12/27 summary and has since been removed?

The question is does the ban and new laws apply to just assault weapons or the list of 120 (so far)? This list consists of assault rifles and certain shotguns and pistols. I have read she was sneaky by using the term assault weapon since every weapon can be used to assault therefore ALL weapons are part of this new legislation. Her website does not describe what the 120 weapons are so far but her description of an assault weapon means every gun that takes a magazine is considered an assault weapon.

northgagator · 01-12-2013, 04:05 PM

In the past week two Metro Atlanta homeowners shot home invaders. Last year a lady in Duluth, Ga shot and killed a would rapist who barged into to shower. She distracted the POS long enough so the she got her pistol. She shot and killed him too.

T3goalie · 01-12-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelJoeWilliamson

...so much so, I plan to make a sign like this for my house;

You should publish neighbor's name in the paper.

Nobody would do that.

rivergator · 01-12-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Do you research anything?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/io...matic-weapons/

Now that's not Dianne Feinstein, is it? And if you read what I wrote:

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If you mean Dianne Feinstein, you're mistaken about confiscation and the number of weapons.

Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas...#ixzz2Ho1IqxVy

**Juggernautz** · 01-12-2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gatordavisl

Better stay at home. Some robbers can actually tell when nobody is home.

Doesn't take an Einstein to figure this out...