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01-11-2013, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FearNoSpear
Terribly inaccurate map. You can't have a map pertaining to the war without showing neutral states. Kentucky and Missouri were neutral. Bloody Bill Anderson and Buckin' Bill Quantrill were Confederates from Missouri. Read about captain Kelleys Irish Brigade out of St. Louis. Morgan's raiders out of Kentucky. The Confederate Flag has 13 stars on it. The states represented on that flag are Florida, Georgia, sc, nc, Virginia, Alabama, Louisiana, Tennessee, Arkansas, Mississippi, Texas, Kentucky AND Missouri. The citizens of Kentucky and Missouri were largely southern sympathizers. Kansas invaded Missouri with their red legged bastards as a result. Research and you will learn something. The neutral states part in the war of northern aggression is quite interesting.
Missouri ordinance of secession Oct. 31, 1861 admitted to the CSA Nov. 28, 1861
Kentucky ordinance of secession Nov. 20, 1861 admitted to the CSA Dec. 10, 1861
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Appreciate the history lesson. Just starting to read up more on the civil war. Any good recommendation for books to read? I'm ashamed to admit I didn't learn much of this in high school.
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01-11-2013, 09:29 AM
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Heisman Candidate
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Went to gettysburg last year, learned that the north actually won..who knew.
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01-11-2013, 09:33 AM
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Ther r 50,000,000 reasons why that wont happen.
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01-11-2013, 09:49 AM
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Gator Country Diamond
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Hey thanks.
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01-11-2013, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FearNoSpear
I don't see where anyone on this thread isn't "over it". A lot of people give a damn about all history. I happen to be one of them. Being an American history Buff i felt obligated to correct An inaccuracy. i couldnt resist. Missouri was referred to on this thread as a state that doesn't fit in. There is historical fact and data to show otherwise. Also it wasn't football that was being discussed. It was conference alignment that turned to how certain schools fit culturally.
There are parts of Missouri that is redneck heaven. Just like parts of Ohio and Michigan are. I've been to all of them by the way. The biggest rednecks I've ever encountered are Ohioans. Being a redneck doesn't make someone Southern. It makes them a redneck
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All of this. Especially the bolded part.
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01-11-2013, 10:23 AM
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Beamer and the Va Tech admin want no part of the SEC. How many decades did it take for them to get into the ACC? Nope, they'll leave only when they have no choice.
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01-11-2013, 11:50 AM
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Heisman Finalist
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The SEC does not need to expand again, period.
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01-11-2013, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by thedyc09
Beamer and the Va Tech admin want no part of the SEC. How many decades did it take for them to get into the ACC? Nope, they'll leave only when they have no choice.
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The ACC is a sinking ship. They can choose to get on a luxury liner or go down in a dinghy.
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01-11-2013, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bposs
Appreciate the history lesson. Just starting to read up more on the civil war. Any good recommendation for books to read? I'm ashamed to admit I didn't learn much of this in high school.
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I'm not a "buff" but I enjoyed this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BSFQRI
It's lighter fare, but as far as I know legit and might be good for someone just starting out.
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01-11-2013, 01:21 PM
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Location: Dade City Florida
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Bring 'em and Oklahoma.
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01-11-2013, 01:40 PM
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Gator Country Silver
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Maybe we should hold out for the Redskins & the Panthers???
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01-11-2013, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rpmGator
The SEC, 7 in a row...
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Damn right, and we are just getting warmed to whip em again and again!
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01-11-2013, 04:43 PM
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Heisman Candidate
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Originally Posted by FearNoSpear
I don't see where anyone on this thread isn't "over it". A lot of people give a damn about all history. I happen to be one of them. Being an American history Buff i felt obligated to correct An inaccuracy.
There are parts of Missouri that is redneck heaven. Just like parts of Ohio and Michigan are. I've been to all of them by the way. The biggest rednecks I've ever encountered are Ohioans. Being a redneck doesn't make someone Southern. It makes them a redneck
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Thanks for that cogent lesson. Kansasans certainly treated Missourians like they were confederates (and vice versa). Though I'd hate to hold Quantrill and Anderson up as any kind of heros. There's a fine line between partisan and psychopath.
And you're absolutely right...has there ever been a bigger redneck than The Hick from French Lick? 
For those interested, I would recommend this as the best, most even-handed (and Pulitzer winning) book on the Civil Wa: James McPherson's Battle Cry of Freedom
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01-11-2013, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by theghost
Blacksburg, VA is more southern than Missouri ever will be....EVER! It's only a few hours north of Knoxville.
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You're wrong and I know it for a fact. My guess is you have probably never been to either place. I suggest saving some money and taking a trip one of these days before forming an opinion of something your not quite accurate on.
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01-11-2013, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Loco
Who gives a damned about the Civil war? Seriously, GET OVER IT! This is football we are talking about, not socio-economics of agriculture vs industry in the 1860s
Culturally Mizzou fits with red-neck states just fine.. if that's your thing. Have you ever been there? It's red-neck heaven.
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Exactly. The ones stating otherwise have no clue what the hell they're talking about.
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01-11-2013, 06:02 PM
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Heisman Candidate
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Originally Posted by theghost
All kidding aside, I'd LOVE to see them come to the SEC. Many reasons, but they are more "SEC" than Missouri ever will be.
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I take it you've never seen "The Outlaw Josie Wales"?
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01-11-2013, 07:13 PM
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I really do not want anymore teams being added the SEC. It will only split up some of the great rivalries. It is by far the toughest conference to win without adding more.
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01-11-2013, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fox
Nuff said.
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Agreed. Add a school from NC and VA and call it good.
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01-11-2013, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by thedyc09
Beamer and the Va Tech admin want no part of the SEC. How many decades did it take for them to get into the ACC? Nope, they'll leave only when they have no choice.
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That is one risk averse group. They belong with the Noles and the rest of the Nation of the minimaphallus.
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01-11-2013, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823
You're wrong and I know it for a fact. My guess is you have probably never been to either place. I suggest saving some money and taking a trip one of these days before forming an opinion of something your not quite accurate on.
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I suggest you go to Blacksburg on gameday. I've been there several times. It is more SEC than most SEC schools.
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