01-11-2013, 12:23 AM
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Cherry on top. Love it!
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01-11-2013, 12:47 AM
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#122
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Originally Posted by MadduxFanII
Really? Opposing fans hated Meyer because he kept relentlessly following their commitments, and you're going to claim that Meyer never flipped other team's recruits? Really?
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Stick to NBN or the Bizarro World, alls I know is every Gator recruitnik was tired of losing the Jeffcoats, Richardsons, and Teagues of the world to Penn State, USC, Texas, even UT took recruits from us. See any of our top guns ditching us for Knoxville yet?
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01-11-2013, 01:03 AM
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#123
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Heisman Finalist
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Originally Posted by ArtDeco
Stick to NBN or the Bizarro World, alls I know is every Gator recruitnik was tired of losing the Jeffcoats, Richardsons, and Teagues of the world to Penn State, USC, Texas, even UT took recruits from us. See any of our top guns ditching us for Knoxville yet?
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So Meyer can't coach OR recruit now. Got it. Must have more luck than the Hat...
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01-11-2013, 01:05 AM
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Heisman Candidate
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Originally Posted by ArtDeco
Stick to NBN or the Bizarro World, alls I know is every Gator recruitnik was tired of losing the Jeffcoats, Richardsons, and Teagues of the world to Penn State, USC, Texas, even UT took recruits from us. See any of our top guns ditching us for Knoxville yet?
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MadduxFan is right, Meyer did flip more than his share of recruits late from other schools.
Off the top of my head:
Omar Hunter (ND)
Juston Trattou (ND)
Brendan beal
John Brown (FSU?)
John brantley (texas)
James WIlson (FSU)
Matt Patchan ( UM? didn't commit to UM first?)
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01-11-2013, 01:05 AM
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#125
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Heisman Winner
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Meyer can recruit and he flipped kids it was his favorite things to do especailly to ND. Now can we get back to Alex
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01-11-2013, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by HotlantaGator
MadduxFan is right, Meyer did flip more than his share of recruits late from other schools.
Off the top of my head:
Omar Hunter (ND)
Juston Trattou (ND)
Brendan beal
John Brown (FSU?)
John brantley (texas)
James WIlson (FSU)
Matt Patchan ( UM? didn't commit to UM first?)
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Hope champs flips turn out to be better, all of those were flops besides like 2
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01-11-2013, 02:52 AM
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#127
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
Meyer can recruit and he flipped kids it was his favorite things to do especailly to ND. Now can we get back to Alex
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You should know by now that threads will never stay on point; especially when pointing it out.
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01-11-2013, 08:33 AM
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#128
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Originally Posted by HotlantaGator
MadduxFan is right, Meyer did flip more than his share of recruits late from other schools.
Off the top of my head:
Omar Hunter (ND)
Juston Trattou (ND)
Brendan beal
John Brown (FSU?)
John brantley (texas)
James WIlson (FSU)
Matt Patchan ( UM? didn't commit to UM first?)
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Bad memory...
Patchan was not a flip
Brown was not a flip
Beal was not a flip
James Wilson was USCw
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"This is why we spend so much time recruiting because you need playmakers. You need difference makers."
Urban Meyer, Former Head Coach Univ. of Fla.
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01-11-2013, 09:24 AM
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Urban also flipped that highly rated lb from michigan on signing day. That came from out of nowhere. His name is slipping my mind.
Its human nature, or gator nature to only remember this players who got flipped, rather than the ones we flipped, but Urban had plenty.
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01-11-2013, 09:43 AM
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Heisman Finalist
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Originally Posted by gator7_5
Its human nature, or gator nature to only remember this players who got flipped, rather than the ones we flipped, but Urban had plenty.
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Agreed. What's more, I think Urban practically invented the "flip". Guy did not quit on a recruit even after they had announced. At the time, there was still some kinda unwritten, "coaches honor" rule being used. Pissed off a LOT of coaches and changed recruiting. It's now, no holds barred.
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01-11-2013, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner
Big, fast and really wraps up.
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People are right to talk about Alex's offensive talent, but he's a beast on defense. I can't wait to see where the coaches put him.
He's definitely a special talent.
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01-11-2013, 10:28 AM
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#132
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Originally Posted by gator7_5
Urban also flipped that highly rated lb from michigan on signing day. That came from out of nowhere. His name is slipping my mind.
Its human nature, or gator nature to only remember this players who got flipped, rather than the ones we flipped, but Urban had plenty.
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Do you mean Finch, the safety from Indiana? He was committed to Michigan and Indiana at one point. Wasn't McCray committed to scUM at one point? Torrey Davis was an FSU commit at one point, the Pounceys where as well when they were like Sophmores and David Nelson from ND. I do find it interesting how many kids that flip don't seem to live up to their rankings.
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01-11-2013, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorinmi
Do you mean Finch, the safety from Indiana? He was committed to Michigan and Indiana at one point. Wasn't McCray committed to scUM at one point? Torrey Davis was an FSU commit at one point, the Pounceys where as well when they were like Sophmores and David Nelson from ND. I do find it interesting how many kids that flip don't seem to live up to their rankings.
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The Pouncies needed no "flipping," they were stood-up by Blobby Bowden on their visit.
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01-11-2013, 10:40 AM
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Heisman Winner
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Nothing sweeter than stealing Notre Dame commits. First under Meyer and now continued by Muschamp.
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner
I'm surprised they haven't burned you at the stake by now. I have only managed to survive by holing up in an undisclosed location which, fortunately, has a wireless internet connection.
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01-11-2013, 12:44 PM
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#135
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Originally Posted by MadduxFanII
You don't know this. It's possible he wasn't DeVry material.
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so far, this is my favorite post of the year. Yes, I know the year is young.
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01-11-2013, 01:14 PM
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Regardless of who "stole" who, the main reason we got AA was because Brian Kelly showed he was a coach that has his eye on the next level and could jump at any time, and don't think there won't bee a lot of coaches going after some of ND's recruits and using this as a means to steal them.
It was said that AA was already on the edge for UF anyway, and Kelly's visit to interview for an NFL job was just the final push he needed to say he's not taking a chance with a HBC who is telling him one thing and doing another.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if ND lost a couple more recruits because of Kelly's actions.
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01-11-2013, 02:12 PM
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the use of the term "flip". Most of the examples cited above are players that I expected to come to Florida anyway. Trent Richardson would have been a flip. Freaking Ray Ray would have been a flip.Jeffcoat at Texas would have been a flip. Brantley is not a flip. Patchan is not a flip. Even if they were, you sure you want to use those two as your examples? A "flip" is not someone who commits early, then wavers and takes his visits as a soft verbal or whatever. I don't remember sweating Brantley or the others as late as January, did you?
What I'm referring to is that awful gut-wrenching feeling I had on NSD in 2009 or whatever, when GC had front story pages on recruits that were to decide on NSD between USC, Penn State, Texas, and UF. Absolutely zero of those picks chose the Gators. We went something like 0-for-5 on those home run hitters. A recruitnik like AZ can look it up, it was the year we tried to get Jeffcoat, who went to Texas. There were at least two other Prime Timers that went to USC that same day. I'm sorry I can't remember the specific names, you tend not to remember the ones you strike out on. Hell ,we had kids dump us for FSU and UT on signing day! That, my friends, is a true "flip", and if all the Urban apologists on here want to act like that never happened, that's cool. But it's untrue. I assume you same guys are giving Urban credit for "flipping" Elam? It also follows that if the Powell kid from Daytona Beach Mainland goes to OSU, that will be a "flip" for Urban? Give me a freaking break.
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01-11-2013, 02:20 PM
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#138
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Heisman Winner
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ArtDeco then you would not count Alex as a flip either. Alex's father went to UF and Alex grew up a Florida fan, a lot of people always though he would end up at Florida.
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01-11-2013, 02:21 PM
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#139
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Gator Country Silver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtDeco
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the use of the term "flip". Most of the examples cited above are players that I expected to come to Florida anyway. Trent Richardson would have been a flip. Freaking Ray Ray would have been a flip.Jeffcoat at Texas would have been a flip. Brantley is not a flip. Patchan is not a flip. Even if they were, you sure you want to use those two as your examples? A "flip" is not someone who commits early, then wavers and takes his visits as a soft verbal or whatever. I don't remember sweating Brantley or the others as late as January, did you?
What I'm referring to is that awful gut-wrenching feeling I had on NSD in 2009 or whatever, when GC had front story pages on recruits that were to decide on NSD between USC, Penn State, Texas, and UF. Absolutely zero of those picks chose the Gators. We went something like 0-for-5 on those home run hitters. A recruitnik like AZ can look it up, it was the year we tried to get Jeffcoat, who went to Texas. There were at least two other Prime Timers that went to USC that same day. I'm sorry I can't remember the specific names, you tend not to remember the ones you strike out on. Hell ,we had kids dump us for FSU and UT on signing day! That, my friends, is a true "flip", and if all the Urban apologists on here want to act like that never happened, that's cool. But it's untrue. I assume you same guys are giving Urban credit for "flipping" Elam? It also follows that if the Powell kid from Daytona Beach Mainland goes to OSU, that will be a "flip" for Urban? Give me a freaking break.
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You answered your own question at the beginning. You don't understand the term flip. Its when you steal a highly rated recruit commited to another school. Its not complicated. And Urban did it plenty of times. Wether you believe he did or not.
Oh, and you keep mentioning Jeffcoat. You do realize we got the number 1 DE in Powell and the number 2 DE in Chris Martin in 2010. Damn Urban for not landing all 3 top DE's in the country that year.
Maybe you need to stick to the other message boards.
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01-11-2013, 02:25 PM
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#140
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Signee
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Originally Posted by thedyc09
Nothing sweeter than stealing Notre Dame commits. First under Meyer and now continued by Muschamp.
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Also Chris Martin was a ND commit at one time before he eventually ended up with us. Not a true flip (signed with Cal) but still got one of their players if only for a season and a half. Guess the kid really likes Charlie (believe he's at KU now)
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