How many more assault weapons are now in circulation because of Obama's threats?

[MastaG8r]

Seems to me that the anti-gun folks ought to be getting pretty upset with the net effect of 0bama's thusfar-toothless gun control rhetoric. If he really wants to ban the sale of assault weapons as a means of decreasing the number of them in circulation, then he should've just done it already. He could've signed an executive order two or three weeks ago - no more assault weapons, effective immediately. Period. Then let the Courts have the final say by ruling on any Constitutional challenges, and that's the end of the issue one way or the other.

Instead, by talking and talking about it for weeks on end and signaling what he intends to do without taking any kind of action, assault weapon sales have gone through the roof. Attendance at gun shows nationwide has skyrocketed. Countless people who might never have bought an assault weapon in their lifetime have gone out and bought one simply because they can, for now. They don't want to be the only ones who don't have one when the inevitable ban goes into effect.

When told that in the future they won't be allowed to do something anymore, the natural reaction for a lot of people is to make a point of doing it while they still can. It's human nature.

Because of the way he's handled this situation in his typical noncommittal foot-dragging style, Barack 0bama is personally responsible for many thousands of assault weapons moving out of factories, out of inventories and into the hands of people who have some vague idea that they ought to have one but are untrained in using and safeguarding it.

[Lawdog88]

Some AR or variant manufacturers have an at-least, one year backorder on rifles.

Meaning, every weapon they can manufacture between now and then (probably expanding to meet the demand, as well), is sold already. So, lots of additional sales for the coming year are already racked up in advance.

AR sales at auction sites are through the roof, and prices crazy.

[wargunfan]

At a minimum the gun grabbers have been the cause of tens of thousands of military type weapons being purchased and millions of rounds of all types of ammunition. And, as Lawdog pointed out, prices have skyrocketed. The gun grabbers have already crashed into the law of unintended consequences. By the time some dunderheaded gun ban is enacted (if ever) the populace will be better armed than ever before.

[PIMking]

I'm at more pissed off because of all the panic buyers driving up the prices of all the other guns and ammo

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[Minister_of_Information]

Friday December 14th was the day I had picked out to purchase a Benelli M4/M11707 tactical shotgun.

[PIMking]

can you put "" around "assault weapons" since they're not "assault weapons"

[Lawdog88]

Originally Posted by Minister_of_Information

Friday December 14th was the day I had picked out to purchase a Benelli M4/M11707 tactical shotgun.

Remington Police 870 might suffice if you like the surety of a pump, or maybe tricked out by Wilson, if you like do-dads.

[wargunfan]

Originally Posted by PIMking

I'm at more pissed off because of all the panic buyers driving up the prices of all the other guns and ammo

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The new Kel-Tec KSG shotgun with a suggested mfg. retail price of $880.00 (per my call to the factory) is now selling on Gun Broker for $3000.00 This is NUTZ! Thank you gun grabbing liberals. NOT.

[MichiGator2002]

Hell, they are probably doing more economic stimulus right now than at any point prior in the first term.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by wargunfan

The new Kel-Tec KSG shotgun with a suggested mfg. retail price of $880.00 (per my call to the factory) is now selling on Gun Broker for $3000.00 This is NUTZ! Thank you gun grabbing liberals. NOT.

People are trying to sell $5/box of steel Tulammo for $25 a box and they're getting it.

I found some 223 yesterday at academy, they had 6 boxes of Hornady 200 rounds boxes for $189, 2 boxes of Remington 40 count, and 12 boxes of 5.56 20 count Eagle tracers.

I had the two boxes of 40 count in my hand when I found the hornady, then some old guy walks up and stars loading up his cart with all of the boxes until I grabbed the last one. through this I asked why he is doing this and he stated that it was because Biden and obama were going to ban them this weekend.....


Fear buying is killing the market, I guess this is a good way for control by the anti gun crowd, with no guns left to buy or ammo thats 3-4x as much only the better off higher class folks can buy them.

[Minister_of_Information]

It wasn't all that many years ago that I was able to obtain 1000 round cans of 55 grain 5.56 brass reload for $130. Of course, I shot all of them up years ago.

[Minister_of_Information]

Originally Posted by Lawdog88

Remington Police 870 might suffice if you like the surety of a pump, or maybe tricked out by Wilson, if you like do-dads.

I think that is the direction I'm heading. Benellis are nice -- you can put 8 rounds downrange in under a second -- but I've always been pretty sporting with a pump shotgun, and I like the weight of a Remington. The Benelli pistol grip is really just a doo dad that looks cool more than something really functional. Plus with a pump, you get the all-important sound deterrence for home defense.

[PIMking]

Mossberg 500.....

[rivergator]

Actually, this all just a plan to trick you guys into spending more money, thus stimulating the economy. If I'm not mistaken, you guys did this in 2009, too, anticipating the coming gun ban. It didn't happen, of course. But you were tricked into spending a lot of money then, too.

[helix139]

Check out the Nighthawk 870. If you're going pump, that's what Chris Costa uses, which means it's good enough for me.

Ammo prices are absolutely insane right now. I've got around 1000 rounds of 5.56 currently but I'd like to get another 1800 or so for some training and there is just no chance of that happening right now with ammo prices the way they are. The days of <$.40/round for brass case crimped primer FMJ are gone for the time being.

[Row6]

Another paranoid bubble. Who didn't see this coming after 2009. But I feel much safer already just thinking of all those weapons out there to help protect us from the UN and the US military.

[wargunfan]

I have a Beretta semiauto (5 rd tube) which I keep handy. I want a Kel Tec KSG pump which has dual tubes holding 7 rds of 2 and 3/4" shells each. With one in the chamber thats 15 rds. of 00 buckshot. I'll have to wait until the insanity subsides cause I don't be payin' 4 times what it's worth.

[wargunfan]

Originally Posted by Row6

Another paranoid bubble. Who didn't see this coming after 2009. But I feel much safer already just thinking of all those weapons out there to help protect us from the UN and the US military.

You're welcome.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Row6

Another paranoid bubble. Who didn't see this coming after 2009. But I feel much safer already just thinking of all those weapons out there to help protect us from the UN and the US military.

You act like we're going to fight the us military one on one as civillians...

The French, Polish, Dutch, and even some Germans had strong resistance movements with just rifles agianst the tanks and military might of the German Blitzkrieg

Also, with that being said if the government orders the military or police to illegally take the guns out of our hands the military by oath should turn those orders down and arrest them.

[Row6]

Originally Posted by PIMking

You act like we're going to fight the us military one on one as civillians...

The French, Polish, Dutch, and even some Germans had strong resistance movements with just rifles agianst the tanks and military might of the German Blitzkrieg

Also, with that being said if the government orders the military or police to illegally take the guns out of our hands the military by oath should turn those orders down and arrest them.

Yes, and we all know about the success of the resistance movements in WW2. We and the Russians were only required for clean up duties.

By oath the military is required to act at the order of it's CIC against enemies foreign and domestic. Nowhere in the constitution are they given the power to determine exactly who that is on their own, and that's a necessary and good thing, unless you think military coups are generally a positive.