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Old 01-09-2013, 03:01 PM   #21
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:09 PM   #22
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The "analysts" are nothing more than "coaches" who don't go on the field. Note that many of them moved on from their "analyst" position to a coaching position at another university. It's nothing more than a propaganda name game being manipulated by the gumps (go figure) to their advantage. NCAA needs to address it. If they can limit the number of coaches, they should limit the number of coaches-er analysts-too.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:50 PM   #23
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If the analyst job is full time then these guys most likely watch days and weeks of video. Video of practice sessions, prior games, and opponents.

I imagine that right after practice these guys are breaking down the video and are preparing a critic of every player. The critics probably go to the appropriate position coach, coordinators, and Saba that night. The next morning the coaches look at the video and the critics. That afternoon the strengths and weaknesses are addressed with the players.

As for the scouting videos, I am sure Saban and his staff are getting the same analysis and by game day the know everything there is to know about their opponent. They probably know what play is being called.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:18 PM   #24
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Having an army of guys watching video and tweaking the playbook is not what concerns me. What concerns me is that most other schools have at most one S&C coach, a couple S&C quality control guys, some GAs, and some interns to "coach" the team during the off-season when the head coach and nine assistants are not permitted by NCAA rules to coach the team. How many "voluntary" practices are they conducting? How much babysitting can they do compared to a regular football staff? It is not fair, but apparently it is not against the rules either. Imagine if Urban Meyer had hired 7 babysitters to make sure that the likes of Carlos Dunlap and Chris Rainey stayed out of trouble. That is 7 coaches who could be getting paid to keep kids busy doing football during free time rather than getting DUIs and texting death threats. That is 7 coaches who are allowed to make contact with the players all year long. That is 7 coaches that are allowed to have "voluntary" practices.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:19 PM   #25
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I think the last three posts are pretty accurate. Every staff has coaches who watch game film and break it down to execute a gameplan against an opponent and/or iron out your own mistakes--but when you have multiple eyes doing this for/with you but under different position titles, it allows the head coaches lots more time to devote to other tasks. Like recruiting, like more hands-on development, etc. And, with different titles, you can skirt around a lot of the other restrictions in place on the coaches themselves in terms of offseason contact/practices.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:19 PM   #26
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Man, this reminds of the movie Casino. Saban is like the guy (Ace Rothstein) who manages the casino without a gaming license. He would just keep changing his job title to food and beverage director, etc. and he would never get caught.
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:26 AM   #27
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The "analysts" are nothing more than "coaches" who don't go on the field. Note that many of them moved on from their "analyst" position to a coaching position at another university. It's nothing more than a propaganda name game being manipulated by the gumps (go figure) to their advantage. NCAA needs to address it. If they can limit the number of coaches, they should limit the number of coaches-er analysts-too.
This is exactly what it is. The "analysts" are all there to assist the coaching staff and all of them move on to other coaching positions - if not on the Alabama staff onto other coaching staffs. Saban has a big coaching tree and many connections, I'm sure landing an "analyst" position will lead to a very good job for any of these "analysts".

Saban just filled his open DB position with the DC from Colorado. Imagine leaving a BCS DC's job at a Pac12 school to take a job as a position coach.

The Bama AD has literally given Saban an open checkbook to do as he pleases. I'm surprised there are only 7 "analysts".
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:38 AM   #28
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so why arent all sec schools doing this?

if we are just hearing about it then the gator staff has known about it for at least a year.
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They've even got an "analyst" who was a position coach at UAB. What the hell does that tell you?
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so why arent all sec schools doing this?

if we are just hearing about it then the gator staff has known about it for at least a year.
This is far from old news. There was a story on this last off-season.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:47 AM   #31
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if the rules allow this, then UF needs to be doing the same thing to compete with alabama. If not, saban will be hoisting up more crystal balls in the years to come.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:11 AM   #32
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if the rules allow this, then UF needs to be doing the same thing to compete with alabama. If not, saban will be hoisting up more crystal balls in the years to come.
Absolutely. If it is within the rules, we should be doing it too.
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The key to winning national championships - have almost an entire coaching staff (7) of guys that supposedly do nothing but analyze football. If they had one or two, I wouldn't think much of it but seven?????!!!! Good grief.
Not sure what they are doing, but in baseball the best front offices have an army of smart guys just analyzing the data.

Now these "analysts" have coaching backgrounds so its not a collegiate saber metric revolution, but my guess is an asston of film work.
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ns is doing nothing more than taking advantage of what is permissable under the ncaa. Since it is not at the moment breaking any rules yes by all means uf ought to do the same. It would be stupid for teams to criticize bama instead of taking advantage as well.
Actually, I think its a smart move by bama, when the sec is to competitive even something like this can and obviously has been a real difference maker.
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