Whats in the water down in tuscaloosa

[Gulfsailinggator]

Originally Posted by ArtDeco

Not sure what's in the H2O, but I stopped there last week for a McDonald's, now I'm growing balls out of my forehead.

Lol

[abc1234]

Originally Posted by corpgator

It's not technique; it's league bias. UF is consistently in the top 3 most penalized regardless of coach. Bama is consistently the in the top 3 least penalized regardless of coach.

Gimme a break. For all the whining on here about Bama not getting hold calls, the facts simply show otherwise. Every game this season except a few of the shutouts (Auburn 49-0, and a couple of the cupcake teams where 3rd string was playing by 3q) Bama was called for holding. And every time it happens, the game threads explode with talk of how rare it is. Every single week, this happened. Statistically, Bama was on par this year with their opponents in terms of holding calls. Maybe the large # of penalties UF seems to rack up is reflective of a lack of discipline, and it probably doesn't help when the coach is screaming and spitting in the refs face every game.

You also can't blame league bias when, statistically, holding has been called on Bama in OOC matchups with refs from other leagues at a rate that is on par with that of SEC matchups.

How often does Bama get called for false start or illegal procedure? Almost never. That's purely a discipline thing, so it makes sense that they would be less penalized in every aspect. Not to mention that, by scheme, Bama's blocking is less likely to induce a hold call. Man blocking schemes are much more prone to these penalties, not the zone blocking scheme Bama uses.

[Gulfsailinggator]

Every player save bird chest is absolutely yoked on bama. Sabans little Debbie food cakes aren't doing that

[619_Gator]

I've been around Steroids for a while. I train at the best Gym is So Cal (not Gold's Venice) and see pro bodybuilders, world champion powerlifters on a daily basis here. I have personal experience with it as well.
Some of the Bama guys look like they are on. But you never know.
Alot of these guys have never eaten. I mean never consumed the amount of calories it takes to add 20-30 pounds of muscle over a couple of years. I guarantee those guys are so regimented in everything they do. Especially eating. I would be curious what ours and Bama's nutrition program looks like for these athletes.
1. Genetics 2. Food 3.18-22 year old hormone levels 4. Training in that order IMO.

[cadillacattack]

Originally Posted by abc1234

Gimme a break. For all the whining on here about Bama not getting hold calls, the facts simply show otherwise. Every game this season except a few of the shutouts (Auburn 49-0, and a couple of the cupcake teams where 3rd string was playing by 3q) Bama was called for holding. And every time it happens, the game threads explode with talk of how rare it is. Every single week, this happened. Statistically, Bama was on par this year with their opponents in terms of holding calls. Maybe the large # of penalties UF seems to rack up is reflective of a lack of discipline, and it probably doesn't help when the coach is screaming and spitting in the refs face every game.

You also can't blame league bias when, statistically, holding has been called on Bama in OOC matchups with refs from other leagues at a rate that is on par with that of SEC matchups.

How often does Bama get called for false start or illegal procedure? Almost never. That's purely a discipline thing, so it makes sense that they would be less penalized in every aspect. Not to mention that, by scheme, Bama's blocking is less likely to induce a hold call. Man blocking schemes are much more prone to these penalties, not the zone blocking scheme Bama uses.

Holding Penalties Called on bama, By Season:

2009 = 0
2010 = 3
2011 = 4
2012 = 9

16 Total Holding calls in 4 complete seasons .... are you kidding?

[619_Gator]

^ Are those the real #'s? Holy Sh!t. Thats nuts.

[GatorBen]

Originally Posted by cadillacattack

Holding Penalties Called on bama, By Season:

2009 = 0
2010 = 3
2011 = 4
2012 = 9

16 Total Holding calls in 4 complete seasons .... are you kidding?

SEC fans (and coaches, and media, and in general everybody) like to complain about the lack of offensive holding calls made leaguewide it seems. After our game with LSU this season there was an article about Les Miles being upset that the refs weren't calling us for holding, and I saw an article saying that from the start of the 2011 season until their game against Arkansas this year there had been a whopping two penalties called on SEC opponents for holding SC defenders.

I don't care enough to find the stats to know to what degree it is a bigger deal from Bama, but uncalled holds conference wide are apparently an issue depending on who you talk to.

[abc1234]

Originally Posted by cadillacattack

Holding Penalties Called on bama, By Season:

2009 = 0
2010 = 3
2011 = 4
2012 = 9

16 Total Holding calls in 4 complete seasons .... are you kidding?

Um...where the hell did these numbers come from? I started fact-checking with 2009 and saw a holding call immediately so I won't even bother wasting time delving further.

Please refer to http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/mainpage.jsp for in depth play-by-play analysis of every game for whichever year you want to look at, and stop spewing propaganda.

[abc1234]

Originally Posted by 619_Gator

^ Are those the real #'s? Holy Sh!t. Thats nuts.

No, they are not. In the 09 SEASON OPENER alone, Bama was called THREE TIMES for holding against Virginia Tech.

[abc1234]

Originally Posted by GatorBen

I don't care enough to find the stats to know to what degree it is a bigger deal from Bama, but uncalled holds conference wide are apparently an issue depending on who you talk to.

This is very true, but Bama gets a bigger rap for it due to a lot of the conspiracy stuff surrounding the location of the SEC HQ being in Birmingham, IMO.

[GatorBen]

Originally Posted by abc1234

No, they are not. In the 09 SEASON OPENER alone, Bama was called THREE TIMES for holding against Virginia Tech.

And even in the 2009 season, where such a big deal was made about Bama not holding, there was, at the very least, an accepted holding call against Bama in the Kentucky game.

Seriously people, I know Bama not being a very penalized team gets annoying, but making up numbers doesn't help the case. There's a number of factors, one is that even Bama's own offensive lineman have said in their interviews that there is a huge emphasis put on keeping their hands inside in practice to avoid being called.

[abc1234]

Originally Posted by GatorBen

And even in the 2009 season, where such a big deal was made about Bama not holding, there was, at the very least, an accepted holding call against Bama in the Kentucky game.

Seriously people, I know Bama not being a very penalized team gets annoying, but making up numbers doesn't help the case. There's a number of factors, one is that even Bama's own offensive lineman have said in their interviews that there is a huge emphasis put on keeping their hands inside in practice to avoid being called.

And like I was saying about the design of the blocking scheme, zone blocking is huge on double-team blocks where you play the direction of the defenders rush and quickly get to the second level. This means they let go of a guy when they move away from them and allow the defender to go into the face of their double team buddy who will engage him. There isn't much opportunity to hold because you are playing the aggression of the defensive front to open up linemen to get to the linebackers and safeties. Man blocking schemes by nature are more prone to holding because the linemen's job is beat that individual assignment. If the lineman is losing the battle, the only option is to hold and hope the refs don't catch it.

Holding by UGA toward the end of the SECCG was egregious but I didn't see any rival fans getting too upset about it. An argument can be made for a holding penalty on almost any play within the tackle box. Frankly, it is coached. However it's rarely called unless there is a blatant take down..and even then, there is no guarantee (see UGA at end of Bama game lol)

[SwampKing1]

Just check Lacy's "guns".. That's all I need to see...

[Dreamliner]

*sighs* It never ends.

[Gatorphenom]

My best guess, herpes, along with a bunch of incest children playing their version of Hillbilly Water Polo.

[RealDeal]

Reasons offered so far for Alabama's dominance and 3 BCS title in 4 years by envious UF fans:

1. Saban oversigns players
2. Alabama players are all on steroids
3. Alabama cheats and pays players
4. SEC refs do not call holding on Alabama under orders from the SEC office
5. Alabama is just lucky

[Minister_of_Information]

6. Not celebrating after plays
7. Heavy handed discipline
8. Head coach is terrifying
9. No "hood" mentality
10. Team is more important than earning a living in the NFL
11. The players shove each other around when they are less than perfect

Real keen insights there.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by ThePlayer

That's the difference between a professional approach to college football and what we pretend to be.

Yes, Bama's strength coach is young, animated, lively and gets big results...versus ours..who doesn't.

Typical post from you. You sure do hate a lot. Opinions are one thing; hating is another.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by Swampmaster

whatever they are eating, drinking or lifting in tuscaloosa--uf needs to copy it. Those players are animals--at all positions, even WR!

I'm pretty sure that's what Muschamp and company are doing. 2nd year in!

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by GatorLaw

Wait a minute. All season long everyone was saying how great our strength coach was, how much better he was than Mariotti, etc. etc. And now all of a sudden he isn't any good?

You can always tell that we've lost a game by coming here and seeing that coaches who were geniuses before the game turned into stupid incompetents during the loss.

I've come to expect nothing less from a few here.