Whats in the water down in tuscaloosa

[gator1986]

Originally Posted by PIMking

how many more people are going to bitch about the damn players jawing at eachother? good freaking lord....

Did you see it though? It was outrageous!!!!!

[gator1986]

Just kidding...

[LAGatorDoc]

Originally Posted by secgator

What's in the water? Liquid Discipline.

Plus their ability to execute in a focused manner. All kidding aside--I'm being dead serious. Think about a few observations made last night in the game thread....the Gumps made tackles the way they are supposed to be made, and then got up and walked right back to the huddle to do it all over again. That in and of itself doesn't explain the bulk we see when the Tide takes the field, but that same discipline carries over to their training and weight program I am guessing. They take their program extremely serious and stay focused--both in the training room and most surely on the field.

No showboating--no "me-me-me" attitudes and thug actions, just get down to business and get it done. Whether bulking up or running reps or beating the snot out of their opponents. It all comes down to that mental toughness Muschamp talks about trying to accomplish. Only difference is Bama actually follows through with it and has had more time to perfect it. We are just getting started on the foundation--it won't be long till others will hopefully say the same about us.

Biggest problem I see is the attitude thing. Seems we have always had a few more showboaters than many other teams, while Bama has rid themselves of that stigma for some time now.

Discipline--that is what is in the water down there. And it works.

Showboating is definitely a Fl and California football thing that begins in HS

[wygator]

I've heard observers say that Saban spends more time on fundamentals than most college coaches. And that's what you see. Sound fundamentals, consistent execution, very few mistakes. That's winning ball at any level.

Add top tier recruits and top shelf coaching schemes and we have a champion.

[malscott]

I'm kind of tiered hopefully this makes sense. When the Soviet Union went down the tubes a while back a great deal of the intel from the enormous amount of resources became available to the rest of the world. No country spent the money on science and training like USSR for their Olympians. It changed forever hoe people trained. I think Dillman, our strength coach, is the best we've had in a long, long time. I could be wrong... But Olympic training is pretty scientifically based. Additionally, Regular training, while decent doesn't get all the muscles that the Olympic regime does. It give you that brute force strength so you can get that burst of strength and toss someone five yards or overpower them vs curl them. Also, some of the strongest looking guys aren't always the strongest. Sometimes there's wasted muscle mass. It's pretty hard to not get bigger doing this stuff but the brute strength Dillmam teaches from the Olympic training is far superior. We outlasted every team this year. Our only error was turnovers-certainly not strength and conditioning. sht happens. Go Gators.

[hd80dun]

Originally Posted by secgator

What's in the water? Liquid Discipline.

Plus their ability to execute in a focused manner. All kidding aside--I'm being dead serious. Think about a few observations made last night in the game thread....the Gumps made tackles the way they are supposed to be made, and then got up and walked right back to the huddle to do it all over again. That in and of itself doesn't explain the bulk we see when the Tide takes the field, but that same discipline carries over to their training and weight program I am guessing. They take their program extremely serious and stay focused--both in the training room and most surely on the field.

No showboating--no "me-me-me" attitudes and thug actions, just get down to business and get it done. Whether bulking up or running reps or beating the snot out of their opponents. It all comes down to that mental toughness Muschamp talks about trying to accomplish. Only difference is Bama actually follows through with it and has had more time to perfect it. We are just getting started on the foundation--it won't be long till others will hopefully say the same about us.

Biggest problem I see is the attitude thing. Seems we have always had a few more showboaters than many other teams, while Bama has rid themselves of that stigma for some time now.

Discipline--that is what is in the water down there. And it works.

I know how popular this is going to be but that's the same way Lou Holtz was at Notre Dame. If one of his players ever talked trash or showboated he would immediately pull him out of the game and when he came to the sideline Lou would grab him by the facemask and nearly rip his head off (that was allowed back then).

[hd80dun]

Originally Posted by gator1986

Barrett Jones hate to say it, is not on steroids. Trust me, I've known linemen who do it, that is just being really tall, and really fat... He eats a lot that is all, might take supplements, but not steroids.. As for the rest... Weeeelllllllll...

It's hard to see the muscle when it's covered in fat.

[Gulfsailinggator]

Barrett jones is minute on that line. As fat as he is

[oxymoron]

The Gators problem this year was lack of playmakers at receivers. If we had a couple of good receivers we would have beaten UGA, Louisville, and would have had a chance against BAMA. I think Coach Muschamp's recruiting will give the Gators a got shot at winning every time out once he gets his players in place.

[Swampmaster]

whatever they are eating, drinking or lifting in tuscaloosa--uf needs to copy it. Those players are animals--at all positions, even WR!

[GatorLaw]

Originally Posted by ThePlayer

That's the difference between a professional approach to college football and what we pretend to be.

Yes, Bama's strength coach is young, animated, lively and gets big results...versus ours..who doesn't.

Wait a minute. All season long everyone was saying how great our strength coach was, how much better he was than Mariotti, etc. etc. And now all of a sudden he isn't any good?

You can always tell that we've lost a game by coming here and seeing that coaches who were geniuses before the game turned into stupid incompetents during the loss.

[SailinGator]

Originally Posted by oxymoron

The Gators problem this year was lack of playmakers at receivers. If we had a couple of good receivers we would have beaten UGA, Louisville, and would have had a chance against BAMA. I think Coach Muschamp's recruiting will give the Gators a got shot at winning every time out once he gets his players in place.

While I agree our lack of receivers was an issue, it wasn't THE issue. The OL needs to learn to block - Driskel will get better but I'm not sure how much quicker he can get rid of the ball.

[Swampmaster]

Originally Posted by SailinGator

The OL needs to learn to block

why didn't they learn last year?

[Gulfsailinggator]

Originally Posted by Swampmaster

why didn't they learn last year?

Our lineman need to learn how to hold. Hands not outside the shoulders. Grab jersey tight and release once the running back clears the line Alabama has elevated this to an art form. That and their "weight program". And their gray shirting, and 7 anal-ists. Etc. a machine.

[Lawdog88]

Originally Posted by secgator

What's in the water? Liquid Discipline.

Plus their ability to execute in a focused manner. All kidding aside--I'm being dead serious. Think about a few observations made last night in the game thread....the Gumps made tackles the way they are supposed to be made, and then got up and walked right back to the huddle to do it all over again. That in and of itself doesn't explain the bulk we see when the Tide takes the field, but that same discipline carries over to their training and weight program I am guessing. They take their program extremely serious and stay focused--both in the training room and most surely on the field.

No showboating--no "me-me-me" attitudes and thug actions, just get down to business and get it done. Whether bulking up or running reps or beating the snot out of their opponents. It all comes down to that mental toughness Muschamp talks about trying to accomplish. Only difference is Bama actually follows through with it and has had more time to perfect it. We are just getting started on the foundation--it won't be long till others will hopefully say the same about us.

Biggest problem I see is the attitude thing. Seems we have always had a few more showboaters than many other teams, while Bama has rid themselves of that stigma for some time now.

Discipline--that is what is in the water down there. And it works.

Saban (perhaps grudgingly) permits limited celebrations after TD's, and much lesser - if any - after ints or game changers. Congrats are permitted on the sidelines.

There is virtually no strutting, arm pumping, self-attention aggrandizement at any other time. It is basically, not permitted.

The championship game was fun to watch for a couple of reasons more than just dispatching the notion that ND was a serious title contender, such as the tackling skills of the defense (usually at least two, working together, high and low, and if on the sidelines, getting the runner / receiver out of bounds immediately and minimizing all forward progress); the play of the corners and safeties (knowing where they were on the field in relation to the receivers and knowing where the ball was [yes, ND made a couple of plays]), and generally not getting out of position on either run or pass plays, and not having to hold to disrupt passes.

Oh, and did I say they did not mug after making a play ? They sometimes would clap once or twice or something nominal, and get right back to work, just like you said, SEC.

They are all about discipline, technique, consistency, and perfection. Not a bad thing at all.

Now if you want to compare that to whatever it was you saw in the Sugar Bowl, just go right ahead, and do tell which is the better picture . . . and result.

[socraticsilence]

Originally Posted by REM08

Colin Cowherd, today on his show, talked about Bama's internal PED system and said he had a good source who said there has never been an issue.

I don't know what Cowherd knows but it does seem like if some other team wins - it must be because of cheating.

There's never been an issue in that they don't care if they cheat and they probably get a heads up by the league prior to off-season testing.

[socraticsilence]

Originally Posted by secgator

What's in the water? Liquid Discipline.

Plus their ability to execute in a focused manner. All kidding aside--I'm being dead serious. Think about a few observations made last night in the game thread....the Gumps made tackles the way they are supposed to be made, and then got up and walked right back to the huddle to do it all over again. That in and of itself doesn't explain the bulk we see when the Tide takes the field, but that same discipline carries over to their training and weight program I am guessing. They take their program extremely serious and stay focused--both in the training room and most surely on the field.

No showboating--no "me-me-me" attitudes and thug actions, just get down to business and get it done. Whether bulking up or running reps or beating the snot out of their opponents. It all comes down to that mental toughness Muschamp talks about trying to accomplish. Only difference is Bama actually follows through with it and has had more time to perfect it. We are just getting started on the foundation--it won't be long till others will hopefully say the same about us.

Biggest problem I see is the attitude thing. Seems we have always had a few more showboaters than many other teams, while Bama has rid themselves of that stigma for some time now.

Discipline--that is what is in the water down there. And it works.

They also held- constantly, tell me do you think his stint with the Dolphins made Nick Saban a much better coach in terms of penalties because if not you'd have to agree its a bit odd that a Saban coached team was never in the top 3 (SEC) least penalized at LSU but has never been outside said top 3 since arriving in Tuscaloosa.

[lurkingator1]

Originally Posted by oxymoron

The Gators problem this year was lack of playmakers at receivers. If we had a couple of good receivers we would have beaten UGA, Louisville, and would have had a chance against BAMA. I think Coach Muschamp's recruiting will give the Gators a got shot at winning every time out once he gets his players in place.

bingo! if we had just one we wouldnt have been trying to win the game by going to our TE who has never really been cluth either

[Lawdog88]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

They also held- constantly, tell me do you think his stint with the Dolphins made Nick Saban a much better coach in terms of penalties because if not you'd have to agree its a bit odd that a Saban coached team was never in the top 3 (SEC) least penalized at LSU but has never been outside said top 3 since arriving in Tuscaloosa.

It shouldn't be so hard to distill their technique and replicate it.

Unless you think that they do the exact same thing we do but just don't get called for it, because they are the Gumps.

I am beginning to think they just have better technique and are better coached up, because everybody and their uncle has been complaining about the Gumps' holding for years, and nothing changes. So, why not let's do what they do, and see what happens.

Heck, maybe we need to send the SEC home office a notice or something, saying we are going to adopt Gump blocking technique on the O line, and we expect the same treatment.

[corpgator]

Originally Posted by Lawdog88

It shouldn't be so hard to distill their technique and replicate it.

Unless you think that they do the exact same thing we do but just don't get called for it, because they are the Gumps.

I am beginning to think they just have better technique and are better coached up, because everybody and their uncle has been complaining about the Gumps' holding for years, and nothing changes. So, why not let's do what they do, and see what happens.

Heck, maybe we need to send the SEC home office a notice or something, saying we are going to adopt Gump blocking technique on the O line, and we expect the same treatment.

It's not technique; it's league bias. UF is consistently in the top 3 most penalized regardless of coach. Bama is consistently the in the top 3 least penalized regardless of coach.