What guns. Nobody I know around here has any guns.
And more and more people are going to be owning fewer and fewer.
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Just hope the gun doesn't get stolen and you haven't registered it.
Let's repeat this again, please.
A new gun is registered with the BATF, with the name and address of the original buyer.
If that gun is used in a crime, the authorities will try and track down that original owner.
If the original owner sold the weapon, hopefully he or she were smart enough to keep paperwork on it. If the gun was stolen, hopefully the original owner alerted the authorities.
If the original owner of a gun that was used in a crime was not smart enough to do all this, then he has some 'splaining to do.
Again, this whole "registering a firearm" is just a straw man. It is very hard to make a case that gun registration in excess of what happens now will prevent one single crime.
No, but if you don't register your gun by a certain date you'll be hit with a gun charge after that date if you can't produce a registration for the gun if you come in contact with a police officer.
If your gun is "stolen" and you haven't registered it and it ends up being used in a crime then you'll be charged with gun negligence...put a nice stiff penalty for that.
You can either register the gun or become another non-law abiding gun owner.
Here you have it, we are going to make criminals of what used to be law abiding citizens. Good job, this is going to be awesome for society
A new gun is registered with the BATF, with the name and address of the original buyer.
If that gun is used in a crime, the authorities will try and track down that original owner.
If the original owner sold the weapon, hopefully he or she were smart enough to keep paperwork on it. If the gun was stolen, hopefully the original owner alerted the authorities.
If the original owner of a gun that was used in a crime was not smart enough to do all this, then he has some 'splaining to do.
Again, this whole "registering a firearm" is just a straw man. It is very hard to make a case that gun registration in excess of what happens now will prevent one single crime.
Lets be clear on what 996 and his peeps want into law shall we, We're not talking about new guns being purchased, but rather retroactive to any firearm you may possess. This is his Amerika
A new gun is registered with the BATF, with the name and address of the original buyer.
If that gun is used in a crime, the authorities will try and track down that original owner.
If the original owner sold the weapon, hopefully he or she were smart enough to keep paperwork on it. If the gun was stolen, hopefully the original owner alerted the authorities.
If the original owner of a gun that was used in a crime was not smart enough to do all this, then he has some 'splaining to do.
Again, this whole "registering a firearm" is just a straw man. It is very hard to make a case that gun registration in excess of what happens now will prevent one single crime.
This won't be a choice...it will be law.
And you won't have some splaining to do...you'll be guilty of aiding and abetting the subsequent criminal act.
If it doesn't deter one gun crime its still worth doing if it helps police resolve gun crimes faster.
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No, it won't ever be law. Like 7732, you are proposing to make law abiding citizens into criminals.
And 'splain how it will "help police resolve gun crimes faster."
It just leads to the ultimate goal of confiscation. There is just know other reason for this, and to think he would want this knowing its going to lead to unrest and making criminals out of law abiding citizens should tell you something about his dangerous philosophy.
You libs think that as a law abiding citizen that you h ave nothing to worry about, are you the same folks that were claiming Arizona's immigration laws were intrusive on minorities, the law stated that you couldn't be stopped unless you were committing a crime, so now when I pass a cop on the road he can run my plates and determine if I own a gun then stop me to make sure it is legal, this is the same argument you libs made about the Arizona laws that you couldn't trust the police that they would violate personal rights. I guess that doesn't matter now.
And just how many of those more than 500 gun deaths would have been stopped by this legislation you want?
Either you are ruled by your irrational fears, or you're engaging in some serious projection. That's no way to live, man.
There is precedence... Obama told us that if we like our current healthcare insurance, then we can keep it. That was a lie, and he knew it when he said it.
Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me TWICE....
The distrust for this administration comes naturally... They have lied to the American people nearly every day.
No, it won't ever be law. Like 7732 said, you are proposing to make law abiding citizens into criminals.
And 'splain how it will "help police resolve gun crimes faster."
Are you kidding???
In a gun related crime, knowing who owns the gun involved immediately give the police a lead...1st Question "How did your gun end up involved in a crime?"
If you are required to register new gun purchases and report lost or stolen guns then "straw" purchases almost go to zero immediately.
Most guns involved in crime are bought through "straw" purchases and sold in the secondary, private sale market which require no background checks.
If one person buys 100 guns and those guns end up in a whole bunch of crimes then you have much quicker access to the non-responsible gun buyer who's selling guns to criminals.
Isn't that the guys you are worried about?
Protecting yourself against criminals, right?
Wouldn't you want to cut out "straw" purchases if you're a good gun owner?
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No, it won't ever be law. Like 7732 said, you are proposing to make law abiding citizens into criminals.
And 'splain how it will "help police resolve gun crimes faster."
Are you kidding???
In a gun related crime, knowing who owns the gun involved immediately give the police a lead...1st Question "How did your gun end up involved in a crime?"
If you are required to register new gun purchases and report lost or stolen guns then "straw" purchases almost go to zero immediately.
Most guns involved in crime are bought through "straw" purchases and sold in the secondary, private sale market which require no background checks.
If one person buys 100 guns and those guns end up in a whole bunch of crimes then you have much quicker access to the non-responsible gun buyer who's selling guns to criminals.
Isn't that the guys you are worried about?
Protecting yourself against criminals, right?
Wouldn't you want to cut out "straw" purchases if you're a good gun owner?
Think fast and furious, we still don't know what happen there and they were all registered and the government all in the middle of it
Yeah, there were sold in straw purchases and tracked and law enforcement was using it to identify drug gang logistics and membership.
Requiring tracking as a standard means law enforcement won't have to do something as unethical as to release guns to criminals themselves but simply go after those who are already selling guns to criminals.
If your name keeps ending up as owner on guns that are involved in crimes and your not recording transfers, sales, lost/stolen ....you go to jail.
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Straw purchases are already illegal. What you're referring to as a straw purchase is simply a private sale.
yes, they're already illegal...
...but not trackable...
... right now, unless you catch the purchaser distributing them or sting them the purchases occur...
How many straw purchases occur when the initial buyer has to give id & submit to a background check and they're required to report all sales, transfers, lost/stolen???
Don't report the "loss" of "theft" of the guns and they end up being used in a crime...
You are an accessory to that crime...and the police know exactly where to go to find out how the gun ended up being used in a crime.
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simple matter of fact that if you ban guns this wont stop, criminals don't care about laws and 'no gun zones' and the liberals don't understand that. they live in this utopia that everyone will just get along after they ban guns and no one would dare break a law like murder or get a gun underground.
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