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Old 01-08-2013, 12:34 PM   #41
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I get being behind teams with a better record that we beat, or even teams with the same record like tamu but no way should we be behind USC. Bogus.
I get it. We should all get it. Primarily, it's about your record and when you lose. USCe, didn't lose another game after we beat them. We lost our last game in a bad fashion and had the same record as them.

Heck they pounded Georgia by the same difference as Bama pounded Notre Dame and Georgia is ahead of USC. Of course they have one more win, but as many losses as USCe.

I pretty much say #6 through #10 is the same thing. Its splitting hairs. You are in the top 10 or you aren't.
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Behind two teams we beat and we have better wins than them overall too.

The coaches poll is just a disaster. Behind 3 teams that we beat.
Coaches poll what a bunch of crap.

We smoke USCe and FSU
kill ourselves vs Uga and wind up behind USCe and FSU in the coaches?

I figure 7 is about right
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This team is fortunate to finish that high, IMO. That awful performance against Louisville could have easily dropped us another 2-3 spots.
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This team is fortunate to finish that high, IMO. That awful performance against Louisville could have easily dropped us another 2-3 spots.
Nah, I mean it was a bad (I mean horrible) performance. But you can't simply just erase the other 11 wins because of one horrible game. That wouldn't be fair. In college football, more than any other sport, people think that a team is far superior to another team if they beat them handily in a game. Truth of the matter is, that isn't necessarily accurate. We lost twice to Tennessee in basketball during our 05 run to a national title. The NY Giants lost a slew of games last year before catching fire and winning the Super Bowl. The Rangers twice beat the SF Giants, 5-0, in interleague play last year. The Giants were the better team.
Given that there is rarely ever any rematches in college football, I think it is only fair to take the season as a whole and rank the teams. We had the toughest schedule in the country and beat three top 10 teams. We deserve to be ranked in the top 10 (and ahead of FSU).
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Rankings updated (01/08/2013)

1 Alabama (56)
Overall: 13-1
Conference: 8-1
defeated Notre Dame 42-14

2 Oregon
Overall: 12-1
Conference: 8-1
defeated Kansas State 35-17

3 Notre Dame
Overall: 12-1
Conference: 0-0
lost to Alabama 14-42

4 Georgia
Overall: 12-2
Conference: 7-2
defeated Nebraska 45-31

5 Texas A&M
Overall: 11-2
Conference: 6-2
defeated Oklahoma 41-13

6 Stanford
Overall: 12-2
Conference: 9-1
defeated Wisconsin 20-14

7 South Carolina
Overall: 11-2
Conference: 6-2
defeated Michigan 33-28

8 Florida State
Overall: 12-2
Conference: 8-1
defeated Northern Illinois 31-10

9 Clemson
Overall: 11-2
Conference: 7-1
defeated LSU 25-24

10 Florida
Overall: 11-2
Conference: 7-1
lost to Louisville 23-33

11 Kansas State
Overall: 11-2
Conference: 8-1
lost to Oregon 17-35

12 LSU
Overall: 10-3
Conference: 6-2
lost to Clemson 24-25

13 Louisville
Overall: 11-2
Conference: 5-2
defeated Florida 33-23

14 Boise State
Overall: 11-2
Conference: 7-1
defeated Washington 28-26

15 Oklahoma
Overall: 10-3
Conference: 8-1
lost to Texas A&M 13-41

16 Northwestern
Overall: 10-3
Conference: 5-3
defeated Mississippi State 34-20

17 Utah State
Overall: 11-2
Conference: 6-0
defeated Toledo 41-15

18 Texas
Overall: 9-4
Conference: 5-4
defeated Oregon State 31-27

19 Oregon State
Overall: 9-4
Conference: 6-3
lost to Texas 27-31

20 Vanderbilt
Overall: 9-4
Conference: 5-3
defeated North Carolina State 38-24

21 San Jose State
Overall: 11-2
Conference: 5-1
defeated Bowling Green 29-20

22 Cincinnati
Overall: 10-3
Conference: 5-2
defeated Duke 48-34

23 Nebraska
Overall: 10-4
Conference: 7-2
lost to Georgia 31-45

24 Northern Illinois
Overall: 12-2
Conference: 9-0
lost to Florida State 10-31

25 Tulsa
Overall: 11-3
Conference: 8-1
defeated Iowa State 31-17

Others Receiving Votes:
Michigan (8-5) 101; UCLA (9-5) 75; Baylor (8-5) 52; Oklahoma State (8-5) 36; Wisconsin (8-6) 18; UCF (10-4) 15; Arkansas State (10-3) 13; Arizona State (8-5) 10; Rutgers (9-4) 9; Kent State (11-3) 5; Louisiana Tech (9-3) 2; Ohio (9-4) 1; Arizona (8-5) 1
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There are six .. two loss teams ranked ahead of Florida. The Gators beat three of them.

Once again, the Coaches Poll reveals itself to be biased, distorted, inaccurate and illegitimate.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings
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I take you back to September 2nd, the day after Bowling Green.

How many here expected a Top 10 finish and 11 regular season wins that day?
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It is what it is. My biggest gripe is how in the hell did ND stay in the top 5? I believe most of us would agree that Ohio State and Notra Dame would not beat any of the SEC teams in the top 10. But it means nothing and once again we will control our own destiny next year.
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Crimson Tide earns 7th FWAA national title

ALABAMA WINS 2012 GRANTLAND RICE TROPHY

The Alabama Crimson Tide captured the Grantland Rice Trophy for the third time in four years, signaling a dynasty in Tuscaloosa and continuing the validation of the Southeastern Conference as the best league in college football.

The Football Writers Association of America annually presents the trophy to the top team in college football. A panel of veteran FWAA voters handed Alabama its seventh Grantland Rice Trophy after the Tide (13-1) defeated top-ranked Notre Dame, 42-14, in the Discover BCS National Championship game on Monday night.

Alabama's seven Grantland Rice titles are the most of any school. No other school has won more than five. It's also the seventh straight season the SEC has claimed the Grantland Rice Trophy: Alabama (2011-12). Auburn (2010), Alabama (2009), Florida (2008), LSU (2007) and Florida (2006).

Utilizing a pulverizing rushing game behind Eddie Lacy and the pinpoint passing of quarterback AJ McCarron, Alabama rushed out to a 35-0 lead in the BCS title game. Previously unbeaten Notre Dame didn't score until the third quarter.

Dating to the 2009 title game victory over Texas, Alabama went more than 108 minutes spanning three BCS title games without allowing a score. The Crimson Tide shut out LSU in last year's title game, 21-0.

The FWAA made the presentation of the Grantland Rice Trophy to Alabama Coach Nick Saban during a news conference on Tuesday here.

"I feel great for our players, fans, administration, and the people of Alabama," Saban said after the game. "Our guys maintained their focus and played through the adversity of winning during a tough season and difficult schedule. My job is to put the players in position to win. I want them to be able to look back 25 years from now and say they won the national championship."

Alabama's other FWAA national titles were in 1965 (along with co-winner Michigan State), 1978, 1979 and 1992. Bear Bryant was the coach of three of those Alabama teams, with Gene Stallings leading the 1992 club. It's the second time the Crimson Tide has been a repeat winner of the Grantland Rice Trophy. That has only happened five times in the history of the award. Oklahoma also won back-to-back FWAA titles in 1955 and '56 under Coach Bud Wilkinson. Like Alabama, Nebraska has done it twice in 1970 and '71 under Bob Devaney and in '94 and '95 under Tom Osborne.

The Grantland Rice Trophy has been presented by the Football Writers Association of America to college football's national champion since 1954. Named for the legendary sportswriter, the Grantland Rice Trophy was the first national championship award to be presented after the college football postseason.

Although the FWAA does not conduct a final poll rating the Top 16 teams in the country at the end of the season, it will conduct a pre-season poll during the summer. The poll will be released in late August before the beginning of the 2013 season.

The Football Writers Association of America, a non-profit organization founded in 1941, consists of more than 1,200 men and women who cover college football for a living. The membership includes journalists, broadcasters and publicists, as well as key executives in all the areas that involve the game. The FWAA works to govern areas that include gameday operations, major awards and its annual All-America team. For more information about the FWAA and its award programs, contact Steve Richardson at tiger@fwaa.com or 972-713-6198.

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http://www.sportswriters.net/fwaa/aw...ers/index.html

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Top 10 is top 10. SC beat the #9 team on the road with their back-up QB and without Lattimore. They pounded GA. They deserve the top 10 too and finished strong.
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There are six .. two loss teams ranked ahead of Florida. The Gators beat three of them.

Once again, the Coaches Poll reveals itself to be biased, distorted, inaccurate and illegitimate.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings
There's also a 2 loss team we got spanked by ranked behind us.
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It would be impossible to order a ranking wherein every team had lost to the teams ahead of it. That's a bad way of gauging the validity of a ranking.
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Always sad seeing teams we beat ahead of us, but yeah there isn't much to say.

Would have been pretty sweet ending the year at #2.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:23 PM   #56
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Coaches poll we were 10th behind #8 FSU and #9 Clemson. Not sure I agree with that but oh well.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...nkings/coaches
I'm with you on this. How do you put FSU, who played a very weak schedule and who's only wins against ranked teams are Clemson and NIU, who's losses were to your #10 and a completely unranked NCSU, ahead of a UF team who had the same number of losses, but to your final #4 and #13 teams, had one of the toughest schedules in the country, beat 4 your poll's final top 12 teams and handily beat FSU in Tallahassee?!?!

Why not just rank UF ahead of UGA?
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There's also a 2 loss team we got spanked by ranked behind us.
Why are you ALWAYS on the negative side of the discussion when it comes to this team? Somebody points out a positive and here comes you to the rescue with a negative point. ALWAYS.
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It is what it is. My biggest gripe is how in the hell did ND stay in the top 5? I believe most of us would agree that Ohio State and Notra Dame would not beat any of the SEC teams in the top 10. But it means nothing and once again we will control our own destiny next year.
Agree, ND got smoked by Bama a team who barely beat UGA and lost to TA&M, they should both be above The Golden Helmets.
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Better then #10 ...best I could ask.
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