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Old 01-06-2013, 08:13 PM   #41
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I wonder what Chip Kelly thinks of Tebow as a QB? Kelly has the chance to be an NFL head coach because apparently the NFL is ga-ga over Kelly's offense in Duck-Land which uses a running QB ..... so I can't help but wonder what CK thinks of TT.

That Karpernick dude in SF sure as heck can run.
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"I look for a quarterback who can run and not a running back who can throw. I want a quarterback who can beat you with his arm," Kelly explained at a coaches clinic in the spring of 2011, emphatically adding, "We are not a Tim Tebow type of quarterback team. I am not going to run my quarterback 20 times on power runs."
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Old 01-06-2013, 09:50 PM   #42
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They might have been 1st in rushing but they were also 31st in passing. They were rushing for 20 yards better per game than the Vikings in 2011 and the same as they rushed this year. You really think adding Tebow would make the Vikings a deadly offense next year? Because the Broncos were 23rd total offense. The Vikings were 20th this year with about the same rushing yards/gm that Tebows Broncos got the previous year.

I just dont think Tebow steps in the door and makes them significantly better. I mean I would rather have him than Ponder but Id rather have about another dozen QBs more than both.
Ummm the Vikings were 31st in passing this year. Did you watch them at all? AP faced stacked boxes all season. Ponder was TERRIBLE in the passing game. Nobody said Tebow would make the Vikings offense deadly, but there is NO reason to believe he would be worse than Ponder. With the duel running threat, there is a reason to believe the offense would open up more so than this season.
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Old 01-06-2013, 09:56 PM   #43
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Ummm the Vikings were 31st in passing this year. Did you watch them at all? AP faced stacked boxes all season. Ponder was TERRIBLE in the passing game. Nobody said Tebow would make the Vikings offense deadly, but there is NO reason to believe he would be worse than Ponder. With the duel running threat, there is a reason to believe the offense would open up more so than this season.
Did you read any of my posts or even the one you quoted? I am a Viking fan, watched every game and thought we had a better chance winning last night with Webb than ponder. I also said in the post you responded to that I would prefer Tebow to Ponder. And i was actually responding to someone that said with Tebow the Vikings would be deadly. Your post is about as wrong as I was about Webb last night.
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:18 PM   #44
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Did you read any of my posts or even the one you quoted? I am a Viking fan, watched every game and thought we had a better chance winning last night with Webb than ponder. I also said in the post you responded to that I would prefer Tebow to Ponder. And i was actually responding to someone that said with Tebow the Vikings would be deadly. Your post is about as wrong as I was about Webb last night.
You tried to make a point that MN needs someone who is a threat to pass the ball "so that Adrian Peterson does not have to face stacked boxes." Gatorfansrule noted your error because Denver ran effectively w/o much of a passing threat. You responded with "They might have been 1st in rushing but they were also 31st in passing." Minnesota was also 31st in passing and AP obviously did not suffer against stacked boxes this year. IOW - your point is completely invalid.

On another note - you really thought the Vikings had a better chance with Webb? C'mon man!
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:49 PM   #45
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You tried to make a point that MN needs someone who is a threat to pass the ball "so that Adrian Peterson does not have to face stacked boxes." Gatorfansrule noted your error because Denver ran effectively w/o much of a passing threat. You responded with "They might have been 1st in rushing but they were also 31st in passing." Minnesota was also 31st in passing and AP obviously did not suffer against stacked boxes this year. IOW - your point is completely invalid.

On another note - you really thought the Vikings had a better chance with Webb? C'mon man!
My point was about improving the offense and why I don't think Tebow makes a significant improvement and i stand by that. With Tebow the offense would not be significantly better. I dont tthink it would be any worse just no improvement. On the other hand if you have a competent passer to open the field and threaten the defense you should have better passing statistics and at the very least some easier runs.

As for Webb he is a ridiculous athlete and has won games in the past. Ponder played awful at Lambeau earlier in the year so there was no reason to be confident with him this week. But Webb on zero notice for the packers just maybe they could catch them off guard and make something happen. If you only saw him last night you wouldn't understand how fans have wanted to see him play more for years. I guess that is over now.
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I had heard some chatter that Ponder might get benched this season (before his play improved around week 14). I think we know now why he wasn't.
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