01-04-2013, 12:42 PM
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with the bad oline, why don't they roll driskel out every play to avoid all those sacks??
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01-04-2013, 12:50 PM
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#182
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Originally Posted by Swampmaster
with the bad oline, why don't they roll driskel out every play to avoid all those sacks??
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Exactly. And if nothing open could run for at least positive yardage.
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01-04-2013, 12:55 PM
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#183
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I already feel better knowing he's come clean. Onward and upward. Class act our coach! Love him...
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01-04-2013, 01:44 PM
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#184
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Originally Posted by MaceoP
On average, our opponents converted 3rd downs 31% of the time for the year. Louisville was 9-14 on 3rd down against us.. (64%). Louisville's 3rd down efficiency in the Sugar Bowl is one stat that speaks volumes about how poorly we played.
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My only question is why does the best unit on the team get criticized while the worst unit gets off scott free for last night's performance. I mean I haven't seen anyone post the offense's 3rd down conversions verses UL.
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01-04-2013, 01:45 PM
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#185
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Originally Posted by Gatorstooth
Yes, he said this after the Georgia game to. I admit I didn't read all the comments in this thread but this was a team loss. We had Louisville who was excited to be there, and a Florida team that was just going through the motions. Muschamp said they were taking Louisville seriously, but when you look over the gators previous games when they played the smaller schools, UF struggled, not once or twice but every time they played. To me there's a problem with preparation which I place on the shoulders of the coaches. I'd like to think this will change but I seriously doubt it will.
The one thing that seriously concerns me about Muschamp is his attitude toward the fans. When questioned about the lack of fan support at the games he said that's not his job, and he's only concerning himself Florida. To me that says he doesn't care if the fans show up or not. And what's with the quick exit from the field after the game? Only one player had enough class to show up in front of the band to sing the alma mater after the game. All the other coaches and players ran to locker room. Muschamp should have made the team stay out of the field and watch Louisville get their trophy, but he didn't, and to me that shows that there's problems with the attitude with coaching staff.
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Can't really argue with a single thing said sir. Good points.
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01-04-2013, 02:03 PM
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#186
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Originally Posted by Gatorphenom
My only question is why does the best unit on the team get criticized while the worst unit gets off scott free for last night's performance. I mean I haven't seen anyone post the offense's 3rd down conversions verses UL.
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You think the offense has gotten off "scott" free?
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01-04-2013, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue
You think the offense has gotten off "scott" free?
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I hear a majority of people in this thread alone putting everything on the defense, but the truth is in football sometimes there are games where the offense has to score almost every possession or the game is lost. See Oregon/Kansas St. or every other Packers game for that matter.
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01-04-2013, 02:35 PM
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#188
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Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue
This happens often when you take the most superficial statistics and go with it.
We gave up more yards than our average. TAMU and UT are top 10 offenses. Louisville is not.
Of course, Louisville had an early lead. They were milking the clock before the first half ended. So yardage really isn't the only measuring stick here. How about this stat ... 3rd down conversions/rate:
Bowling Green: 4, 24%
TAMU: 29%
Tennessee: 6, 37%
Kentucky: 4, 26%
LSU: 1, 8%
Vandy: 7, 40%
USC: 3, 21%
UGA: 1, 10%
Missouri: 6, 38%
La-Lafayette: 2, 17%
Jacksonville St: 4, 25%
FSU: 7, 50%
Louisville: 9, 65%
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This is what happens when we abandon the creative blitz packages for a game.
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01-04-2013, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatorrick22
This is what happens when we abandon the creative blitz packages for a game.
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we did a lot of getting pressure with just the front 4 all season
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01-04-2013, 02:42 PM
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Yes we did and our DC assumed we would do the same vs UL but it was evident to me early that that was not happening. Why? Good question, you'd think UL had an all pro line. IMO our DC failed to make adjustments soon enough, instead we played a zone d without blitzing and TB picked us apart. This was not the DC smartest game.
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01-04-2013, 02:43 PM
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#191
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
we did a lot of getting pressure with just the front 4 all season
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I review all the games we've played several times after the games are played and I can tell you, with certainty, that we did not do as much blitzing as we could/should have.
A team like this should have been blitzed on the very first play, just to rattle their chain. Their receivers were better than A&M's and their offensive line was as good or better.
We didn't even adapt to the needed changes at half-time.
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01-04-2013, 02:44 PM
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#192
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Originally Posted by Gatorphenom
I hear a majority of people in this thread alone putting everything on the defense, but the truth is in football sometimes there are games where the offense has to score almost every possession or the game is lost. See Oregon/Kansas St. or every other Packers game for that matter.
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Man, if you missed the extensive bitching about our offense I'm not sure you've been paying very close attention.
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01-04-2013, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MastaG8r
Thank you.
For those who are 110% sold on this coach, listen to what he said: Outcoached and outplayed. Period.
It was total team fail last night and frankly it didn't totally shock me. A number of those vaunted 11 wins this year felt like flukes. Leaving the stadium after that Missouri game I was looking around nervously like a shoplifter leaving a store with a stolen victory stuffed under my shirt. I appreciated the wins but this never felt like a championship-caliber team to me. Smoke and mirrors.
Yes, the defense came up big in the second half a lot, especially in the 4th quarter. But umm...why was it necessary for them to come up big in the 4th quarter so often? "Comeback teams" can be fun to watch but they rarely win championships. Those usually go to 4-quarter domination teams.
It's funny to look at some of the threads with people who seem to be trying to avoid facing the big picture. Worried about players celebrating too much after big plays when the team is losing? There's a thread for that. Didn't like the uniforms? There's a thread for that. The sideline infraction penalty? Thread for that. Kent Taylor (who? lol) burned his redshirt? Sure.
The big picture isn't pretty. The team played really, really poorly and as bad as their execution was, the gameplan they were supposed to be executing was even worse. All things considered in retrospect, I'm about as pumped about this 11-win season as I was about that win over Missouri. What should feel encouraging (after a 7-6 season) does not feel encouraging.
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If this wasn't a championship-caliber team but had the record of a championship-caliber team (11 wins) isn't that a tribute to the coaching? If not the players/team and not the coaches then what? Certainly not "smoke and mirrors." A team might win one or two games here and there by "smoke and mirrors" (i.e. good luck) but not 11 games in one season, especially not 11 with the schedule we had.
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01-04-2013, 02:50 PM
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#194
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Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue
Man, if you missed the extensive bitching about our offense I'm not sure you've been paying very close attention.
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So we're on "bitching boards" now, and not stating our critiques with displeasure on these opinion boards? .... funny how you categorize Gator football fan's opinions.
We're critiquing our favorite team's performance - that all we are doing.
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01-04-2013, 02:52 PM
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#195
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Originally Posted by Gatorphenom
My only question is why does the best unit on the team get criticized while the worst unit gets off scott free for last night's performance. I mean I haven't seen anyone post the offense's 3rd down conversions verses UL.
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We have converted roughly 36% of our 3rd down tries for the year. Against Louisville, we were 3 for 10.
We have won our games this year with a stingy D and just enough TOP O to get the job done. The difference in the Louisville game was the inability for us to get them off the field. This out of the ordinary performance by our D forced our O into a different type of game, which we were unable to execute.
Our poor play was a team effort, however if our D played as they have all year, and our O played as they did all year, we win the game.
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01-04-2013, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatorrick22
I review all the games we've played several times after the games are played and I can tell you, with certainty, that we did not do as much blitzing as we could/should have.
A team like this should have been blitzed on the very first play, just to rattle their chain. There receivers were better than A&M's and their offensive line was as good or better.
We didn't even adapt to the needed changes at half-time.
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I do that as well I haven't watched the Louisville game back yet. We stopped blitzing in the 2nd half against A & M. I think I remember CWM saying at half time of the Louisville game that we needed to go to some stuff that we had did earlier in the year.
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01-04-2013, 02:56 PM
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#197
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fla---a very good team, but not a great team. They had a lot of flaws and mix that with not even showing up ready to play, results in a loss to a very good lville team with a QB that is light years ahead of driskel.
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01-04-2013, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
Yeah do that as well I haven't watched the Louisville game back yet. We stopped blitzing in the 2nd half against A & M. I think I remember CWM saying at half time of the Louisville game that we needed to go to some stuff that we had did earlier in the year.
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The thing about a QB like theirs is you have to get pressure on him quickly, or he will pick you apart. Their receivers are very good, ones we should have here at Florida. They (receives) were making near circus catches too, unlike our group that needs the ball to be thrown right into their hands.
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01-04-2013, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatorrick22
So we're on "bitching boards" now, and not opinion boards? .... funny how you categorize Gator football fan's opinions.
We're critiquing our favorite team's performance - that all we are doing.
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Huh? Bitching as a synonym for complaining. And yes, there was a lot of apt complaining done about the offense.
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01-04-2013, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatorrick22
The thing about a QB like theirs is you have to get pressure on him quickly, or he will pick you apart. Their receivers are very good, ones we should have here at Florida. They (receives) were making near circus catches too, unlike our group that needs the ball to be thrown right into their hands.
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While you could be right about us needing to Blitz I am not sure CWM agrees with you because of his statement at half time. Louisville only scored 9 points in the 2nd half and 6 of those was after that stupid onside kick and the WR beating Jaylin.
Our WR core is not very good.
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