Migration to right to work states

[g8orbill]

Not sure why anyone would want to live in the states with forced union membership and a high state income tax


http://www.redstate.com/2013/01/03/u...h-good-reason/

From the article:

MOVING OUT
The top-five outbound states for 2012 were:

New Jersey
Illinois
West Virginia
New York
New Mexico

New Jersey (62 percent) displaced the outbound leader from last year, Illinois (60 percent) reclaiming the top spot for high-outbound migration that it held in 2010.

The Northeast is the most well-represented region on the high-outbound traffic list. In addition to New Jersey, New York (58 percent), Maine (56 percent) and Connecticut (56 percent) are also included.

Michigan (58 percent) and Wisconsin (55 percent) along with Illinois represented the Great Lakes region. Michigan fell to the No. 6 from the No. 4 spot it held in 2011. Previously, it had claimed the top outbound spot every year from 2006-2009.

Kentucky (55 percent) joined West Virginia (58 percent) as the only Southern states to appear on the high outbound list. New Mexico (58 percent) was the only Western state to appear on the list. [Emphasis added.]

[rpmGator]

It's warmer down here. Besides, Bama is a cheaper place to retire than Florida due to it being an income tax state. If you retire, no income so no tax.

Property tax states like Florida, keep on taxing no matter how old you get.

[g8orbill]

rpm-maybe you should move to bama

I would much rather have property taxes and sales taxes than income taxes-

state sales tax forces everyone who buys anything to participate in the funding of our state guvment

[ChartsandGrafs]

Originally Posted by g8orbill

rpm-maybe you should move to bama

I would much rather have property taxes and sales taxes than income taxes-

state sales tax forces everyone who buys anything to participate in the funding of our state guvment

Property taxes represent a form of rent. If you have to pay taxes on something just to "own" it, then you don't really own it. You're merely renting or leasing it from whatever entity you have to pay the tax to. After all, failure to pay the tax on your property means they get to evict you from it. So, in reality, "your" property is really "their" property. They just allow you to live there and pay rent, which they call a "property tax".

The income tax is much the same, as our labor is a form of property which the government puts a primary claim of ownership on. To "own" your labor and to trade it for the things you need to live, like a paycheck, you have to pay the government rent (tax), otherwise they will throw you in a rape cage and prevent you from trading your labor, which in truth they legally own. You essentially have to rent your own labor from the government, via the income tax, so that you can trade it and make a living. This legalized government ownership of human labor is also just a modern form of plantation slavery on a mass scale.

Sales taxes are a little more benign, but still offensive. The sales tax represents the government Mafia's insertion of themselves into a third party transaction so that they can take (steal) an unearned cut, or transaction fee. The government claims this transaction fee, or sales tax, the same way a pimp claims a cut from the earnings of a prostitute he menacingly claims to represent. When you pay a sales tax, you are basically giving government pimps an unearned cut of the transaction.

[philnotfil]

Originally Posted by g8orbill

Not sure why anyone would want to live in the states with forced union membership and a high state income tax


http://www.redstate.com/2013/01/03/u...h-good-reason/

From the article:

MOVING OUT
The top-five outbound states for 2012 were:

New Jersey
Illinois
West Virginia
New York
New Mexico

New Jersey (62 percent) displaced the outbound leader from last year, Illinois (60 percent) reclaiming the top spot for high-outbound migration that it held in 2010.

The Northeast is the most well-represented region on the high-outbound traffic list. In addition to New Jersey, New York (58 percent), Maine (56 percent) and Connecticut (56 percent) are also included.

Michigan (58 percent) and Wisconsin (55 percent) along with Illinois represented the Great Lakes region. Michigan fell to the No. 6 from the No. 4 spot it held in 2011. Previously, it had claimed the top outbound spot every year from 2006-2009.

Kentucky (55 percent) joined West Virginia (58 percent) as the only Southern states to appear on the high outbound list. New Mexico (58 percent) was the only Western state to appear on the list. [Emphasis added.]

I would generally chalk it up to weather and cost of living, but New Mexico is an interesting exception. I wonder what is going on there.

[fredsanford]

High taxation states also have some of the highest wages. People leave for many reasons, weather primarily among them.

[g8orbill]

those making very high wages have left due to the state income tax

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by fredsanford

High taxation states also have some of the highest wages. People leave for many reasons, weather primarily among them.

There is a pay-off, however tenuous for lots of people. My sister lives in LA. She says she's sucking wind but wouldn't want to live anyplace else.

The question is how many more will be like my sister if it keeps getting worse ? How many more will be able to stay ? She is still not sure what the impact of the new carbon tax and Prop 30 is going to be.

[wargunfan]

Originally Posted by rpmGator

It's warmer down here. Besides, Bama is a cheaper place to retire than Florida due to it being an income tax state. If you retire, no income so no tax.

Property tax states like Florida, keep on taxing no matter how old you get.

Does Alabama exempt pension income and SS from their state income tax??? I rather doubt it. And are there no property taxes there???

[rpmGator]

Yes they do... At least last time I looked. Military pensions I am pretty sure of and SS isn't taxed either. I saw it on a best places to retire article long ago. Propery and sales taxes in bama are much lower than here as they get the bulk of their revenue through the income tax.

Bill,

If you have no income, your taxes in Bama will be much lower after you retire as you retire your tax burden as well.

You can stop paying FED and State income taxes at the same time in bama, but property taxes in Florida keep on coming with the threat of taking the home if you can't pay.

Have you really thought that one out.