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Old 12-20-2012, 11:17 AM   #41
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Saw on twitter that JP was down to FL and Duke.
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I love our program, but I'm not really sure how you can say this Beal/Rivers comparison had anything to do with our program vs. Duke's. First, we haven't seen either of these players' long-term potential. They just got to the NBA. If you are only talking about draft order, maybe Beal was just always a better player than Rivers? In addition, we occasionally get the opposite effect. Brett Nelson and Joakim Noah are two examples of players whose NBA stock dropped while playing for Florida.

I don't think he could do much better than to come here, but I also don't think he could do much worse with either Duke or Mich St.
Bret Nelson's Stock dropped because SEC opponents figured out how to effectively shut him down with a very quick defensive guard following his Soph year.

Noah's stock drop due to his injured shoulder his junior season. You may recall that he broke Bill Russel's 40 year old NCAA tournament block record during his soph season and he utterly shut down interior play for UCLA in that first Championship game. Thus, his Pro Stock skyrocketed. His injury slowed him down considerably during his junior year.

However, you are absolutely correct in that one simply cannot make judgments based on a single player and that all of those environments (Duke, UF, Mich St) are usually pretty good for player development, although, that, of course, depends on the player's fit with the institution, the coaching staff and his other teammates during his term at the University.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:09 PM   #43
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:37 PM   #45
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I'm thinking Michigan St.


both Donovan and Coach K. made visits in the last few days. Tom Izzo just sitting back and playing it cool like the man holding top set on a rainbow board.
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Bret Nelson's Stock dropped because SEC opponents figured out how to effectively shut him down with a very quick defensive guard following his Soph year.

Noah's stock drop due to his injured shoulder his junior season. You may recall that he broke Bill Russel's 40 year old NCAA tournament block record during his soph season and he utterly shut down interior play for UCLA in that first Championship game. Thus, his Pro Stock skyrocketed. His injury slowed him down considerably during his junior year.

However, you are absolutely correct in that one simply cannot make judgments based on a single player and that all of those environments (Duke, UF, Mich St) are usually pretty good for player development, although, that, of course, depends on the player's fit with the institution, the coaching staff and his other teammates during his term at the University.


Honestly, I think Donovan is the best player development coach in the country and I believe it's by a wide-wide margin over both Coach K and Izzo (two coaches I respect a lot)
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:19 PM   #48
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Saw on twitter that JP was down to FL and Duke.
Hi official Twitter gives no indication at all.

He's a smart kid, so he may really have not known as of yesterday evening as the reports are saying, but he could also know and just be playing it very, very close to the vest.

The prognosticators aren't always right, but more often than not they are and everything is pointing to a Duke/Michigan State battle. I'd be very surprised if he picks anywhere else.

With that said, it would make my freaking Christmas!
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:24 PM   #49
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I have a source that told me where he is going, but I promised him/her that I wouldn't say anything, so I will wait until he announces to tell you...
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I'm thinking Michigan St.


both Donovan and Coach K. made visits in the last few days. Tom Izzo just sitting back and playing it cool like the man holding top set on a rainbow board.
Izzo visited yesterday. Does that mean MSU must be out?

Izzo's last words to Jabari Parker made strong impression
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We polled Parker's Simeon teammates anonymously about where they think he will go. Two were split on their opinion.

Florida: 3.
Michigan State: 2.5.
Duke: 1.5.
BYU: 1
Don't know: 3.
Breaking down Jabari Parker's college options
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perhaps a little too restricted in the analysis
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I think the best comparison for Billy D is Dean Smith. They used to say that the only person that could hold Michael Jordan under 20 points was Dean Smith, which was true. Smith was dedicated to teaching ALL the other aspects of the game to his players. Billy seems to have the same focus and it shows when his players get to the NBA. They all have well rounded games that stuff 4-5 columns of a stat sheet, not just the points column.
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I think the best comparison for Billy D is Dean Smith. They used to say that the only person that could hold Michael Jordan under 20 points was Dean Smith, which was true. Smith was dedicated to teaching ALL the other aspects of the game to his players. Billy seems to have the same focus and it shows when his players get to the NBA. They all have well rounded games that stuff 4-5 columns of a stat sheet, not just the points column.
No need to insult billy by comparing him to dean smith. Dean as evidenced by Roy Williams was a horrible judge of character. None of the people in Billy's coaching tree have done anything as remotely as disgusting as Roy the cry baby Williams.
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Bullis just said Parker to Duke on another thread. Looks like this one is over. He is nearly spot on each time.
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Strange, there was a story about Parker committing to Michigan State, now the story has been taken down....
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I read the story before they took it down. It basically says Parker committed to Michigan State with ESPNU present and it talks about it being Iso's greatest recruiting class, blah, blah, blah. The story was written as if it had already happened. It was only up shortly then taken down. It was the first link here:

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