12-07-2012, 07:35 PM
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Zook also recruited really damn well, made things much easier for Meyer, and no I am not bashing Meyer.
Just saying that Zook does not equal Dooley.
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12-07-2012, 07:49 PM
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Recruiting is easy...play with an opportunity to win, play right away, and benefits. The kids are being recruited in junior high now so don't tell me the benefits don't matter. If a high school is willing to give you money, rent, and tuition to play for them nowadays why would they go to a college and not expect the same or more.
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12-08-2012, 08:13 AM
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Right they won't but being Florida will definitely make them think twice... There select schools that will get big recruits always that's just my belief...
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12-09-2012, 10:29 PM
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Heisman Finalist
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Originally Posted by swampsupreme
to try and snag Laquon Treadwell #1 WR in the nation.
He's commited to Ole Miss, but is taking a few final visits to Michigan, UF, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma state.
This kids from illinois can anyone tell me why he's going to Ole Miss?
maybe Muschamp/Pease/Phillips can sway him and convince him to come play for a winning program.
i think we already have a good WR class coming in. But this would put the icing on the cake.
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What do we have to offer besides wins and learning how to run block well?
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12-09-2012, 10:33 PM
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Heisman Finalist
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Originally Posted by tilly
Right. If Foley struck out with Meyer...we would be Tennessee today. All it takes is two bad hires.
If you are irrelevant for 4 years, you lose an entire run of high school kids. Two bad coaches will cost you six years minimum.
The last Time Tennessee was good, high school seniors were in elementary school.
I repeat, kids won't play here for long "just because we are Florida".
They will play where the program is relevant.
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Yeah, Meyer was a bad hire.. i mean sure he doubled the titles Spurrier (and everyone else) won and sure he lost less games to Uga and FSU in 6 years than Boom has in 2, but he was a horrible hire, heck Florida talent carried him, look how bad he's been at OSU, they didn't even make a bowl! (Ignore the record and the best wining pct in college football history please).
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12-10-2012, 08:58 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by socraticsilence
Yeah, Meyer was a bad hire.. i mean sure he doubled the titles Spurrier (and everyone else) won and sure he lost less games to Uga and FSU in 6 years than Boom has in 2, but he was a horrible hire, heck Florida talent carried him, look how bad he's been at OSU, they didn't even make a bowl! (Ignore the record and the best wining pct in college football history please).
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? Feels like I'm missing half the conversation.
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12-10-2012, 10:08 AM
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Freshman
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Statesboro, GA
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Originally Posted by LabraGator
? Feels like I'm missing half the conversation.
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He misinterpreted what the poster was saying. The poster didn't say Meyer was a bad hire, the poster said had Meyer been a bad hire we could've been in Tennessee's shoes.
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12-10-2012, 11:21 AM
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All American
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Originally Posted by LabraGator
? Feels like I'm missing half the conversation.
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You are missing the fact that he is a Meyer apologist. You would think that, due to him coming to his defense any time anyone on these boards says anything remotely bad about him or questions his excellence of coaching. 
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Ephes. 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
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12-10-2012, 12:16 PM
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Heisman Winner
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Originally Posted by socraticsilence
What do we have to offer besides wins and learning how to run block well?
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You're right!! UF has never put a wide receiver into the NFL and probably never will. (I'm going to go ahead and point out my sarcasm because I get the feeling you need me to.)
By the way, not trying to activate your,"Meyer is my secret lover and I will attack if I perceive he's being dissed!!!" reflex, but you do realize he is no longer UF's head coach don't you?
Here's some more facts to chew on as well.
1. We had to survive Meyer's "retirement", followed by his "return" during which it's actually a moot point whether or not he actually coached at all.
2. Because of Meyer's love for Addazio we arguably lost Billy Gonzalez and endured even coaching changes at WR after Meyer flaked out.
3. We didn't even have a real WR coach this year after Aubrey Hill resigned due to the UM Nevin Shapiro investigation.
4. We now have Joker Phillips who has proven WR coaching skills.
5. We dealt with a virtual first time starter in Driskel who will be better next year.
6. It's impossible for me to believe you are a Gator fan with the crap you post.
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12-10-2012, 01:07 PM
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All SEC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by socraticsilence
Yeah, Meyer was a bad hire.. i mean sure he doubled the titles Spurrier (and everyone else) won and sure he lost less games to Uga and FSU in 6 years than Boom has in 2, but he was a horrible hire, heck Florida talent carried him, look how bad he's been at OSU, they didn't even make a bowl! (Ignore the record and the best wining pct in college football history please).
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say all your rep must have been earned during the Meyer era.
How you can take a thread questioning the staying power and prominence of college programs and interpret it as some kind of slight on an ex-Coach, I have no frickin idea.
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12-10-2012, 02:07 PM
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Heisman Candidate
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Quote:
Originally Posted by socraticsilence
Yeah, Meyer was a bad hire.. i mean sure he doubled the titles Spurrier (and everyone else) won and sure he lost less games to Uga and FSU in 6 years than Boom has in 2, but he was a horrible hire, heck Florida talent carried him, look how bad he's been at OSU, they didn't even make a bowl! (Ignore the record and the best wining pct in college football history please).
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I don't know why you did this, but this is pretty ridiculous
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12-10-2012, 02:20 PM
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It's been said before, but can't be said enough.. ss is just a horrible poster.
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12-10-2012, 05:42 PM
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All American
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Originally Posted by gator7_5
It's been said before, but can't be said enough.. ss is just a horrible poster.
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it has become almost comical, if you like bad comedy.
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Ephes. 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
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12-10-2012, 06:11 PM
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Heisman Finalist
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Originally Posted by gator7_5
It's been said before, but can't be said enough.. ss is just a horrible poster.
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SS probably thought we would have 4-5 losses this season. We have 1. I doubt he would give Muschamp credit for that. Also he said we would have 3 losses next season- when we will probably have 1 or so (maybe 0 at best, 2 at worst).
Maybe once we meet up with OSU and Meyer and destroy them it will quiet it down.
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12-11-2012, 12:34 AM
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Gator Country Gold
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Quote:
Originally Posted by socraticsilence
Yeah, Meyer was a bad hire.. i mean sure he doubled the titles Spurrier (and everyone else) won and sure he lost less games to Uga and FSU in 6 years than Boom has in 2, but he was a horrible hire, heck Florida talent carried him, look how bad he's been at OSU, they didn't even make a bowl! (Ignore the record and the best wining pct in college football history please).
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Why do people keep bringing up OSU's coach in our conversations?
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12-11-2012, 12:27 PM
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Gator Country Diamond
Join Date: Apr 2007
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When Ole Miss hired Friese (sp?), I thought it was an EXCELLENT hire, it's starting to show now. Ole Miss will be a force in the West really soon.
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12-11-2012, 12:43 PM
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Heisman Finalist
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Portland, OR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tilly
Right. If Foley struck out with Meyer...we would be Tennessee today. All it takes is two bad hires.
If you are irrelevant for 4 years, you lose an entire run of high school kids. Two bad coaches will cost you six years minimum.
The last Time Tennessee was good, high school seniors were in elementary school.
I repeat, kids won't play here for long "just because we are Florida".
They will play where the program is relevant.
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Ummm, no. Florida has a MAJOR advantage in having plentiful recruiting grounds right outside it's back door. We would be like USCw. Get a good coach and you're on top of the heap by the time you have your roster turned over. UT has to work a lot harder for the same recruits.
Coaches know the difference and we would not have Tennessee's issues finding a good or great coach.
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12-11-2012, 12:51 PM
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Heisman Finalist
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elrongator
You're right!! UF has never put a wide receiver into the NFL and probably never will. (I'm going to go ahead and point out my sarcasm because I get the feeling you need me to.)
By the way, not trying to activate your,"Meyer is my secret lover and I will attack if I perceive he's being dissed!!!" reflex, but you do realize he is no longer UF's head coach don't you?
Here's some more facts to chew on as well.
1. We had to survive Meyer's "retirement", followed by his "return" during which it's actually a moot point whether or not he actually coached at all.
2. Because of Meyer's love for Addazio we arguably lost Billy Gonzalez and endured even coaching changes at WR after Meyer flaked out.
3. We didn't even have a real WR coach this year after Aubrey Hill resigned due to the UM Nevin Shapiro investigation.
4. We now have Joker Phillips who has proven WR coaching skills.
5. We dealt with a virtual first time starter in Driskel who will be better next year.
6. It's impossible for me to believe you are a Gator fan with the crap you post.
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how big of a loss was gonzalez really? wasnt he at the infamous pre-SECCG party that led to Dunlap's dui?
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12-11-2012, 10:52 PM
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Heisman Finalist
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by socraticsilence
Yeah, Meyer was a bad hire.. i mean sure he doubled the titles Spurrier (and everyone else) won and sure he lost less games to Uga and FSU in 6 years than Boom has in 2, but he was a horrible hire, heck Florida talent carried him, look how bad he's been at OSU, they didn't even make a bowl! (Ignore the record and the best wining pct in college football history please).
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You're on the wrong board. Try bucknuts, you'll fit right in.
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12-12-2012, 12:31 PM
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All SEC
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tilly
My point is...we were irrelevant for 3 years under Zook...it happens that fast.
They won't come because we are Florida alone. Ask Notre Dame.
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Exactly, look at the depth at QB, RB, and WR. We're addressing those issues now, but it was slim pickings (or at least in player development).
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