Starter's in way too long

[g8rvet]

I understand you Moe, I am just saying that minutes played during the ebb and flow of the game is >>>>>>>>>>>>> than 4 minutes in garbage time. Both for chances of injury and for meaningful time of seeing what they can do, especially playing with some of the starters. I guess I am not really sure what would be accomplished by getting them garbage minutes other than improving their stat lines at the end of the year. But they know when they got in the game and I am quite sure they would rather have 2 real minutes than 4 meaningless minutes. I could be wrong, just my take.

[patsyruth2008]

I am pretty sure there is an unwritten rule among Coaches that states the team getting beat makes the first move in clearing his bench. Kindof say "Okay you win, congratulations". At that point the team winning follows suite and clears his bench.

In the Wisconsin game, Coach Ryan kept his starters in the game and even started pressing the last couple of minutes, obviously telling Billy that he was still trying to win. I can't be sure, but this is why I thought Coach did not bring in the freshman late in the game.

[regurgigator]

Originally Posted by patsyruth2008

I am pretty sure there is an unwritten rule among Coaches that states the team getting beat makes the first move in clearing his bench. Kindof say "Okay you win, congratulations". At that point the team winning follows suite and clears his bench.

In the Wisconsin game, Coach Ryan kept his starters in the game and even started pressing the last couple of minutes, obviously telling Billy that he was still trying to win. I can't be sure, but this is why I thought Coach did not bring in the freshman late in the game.

Good point.

And, I agree with 321gator that if the scrubs had come in and let the final margin get below 10, it might not look as impressive at the end of the season when the committee is looking at it and no one would remember that we led by double digits for much of the game.

[GatorSieg]

Originally Posted by 321gator

When we missed the tourney those 2 years, our schedule and results put us right outside the bubble. Just a theory, but perhaps Billy wanted to bolster our resume, and maintain 20 point win against a very good defensive team. Billy knows a huge 18 point win looks a lot better than a 5 or 6 point win at home. Stronger wins may lead to better seeds and brackets. The Gators dominated last night, and there is a chance our backups allow Wisconsin to cut down the lead to make it look like a pedestrian win. I also wanted the starters out with about 4 minutes to go, but with a national tv audience, maybe Billy wants to show everyone how real the Gators are.

Unfortunately this could be a moot point if Wisconsin goes on to have a terrible season and their final RPI is pretty pedestrian - then it becomes 'well they SHOULD have beaten them by 20' and the margin is overlooked.

Maybe my memory's off but I seem to remember one of the years right after the titles where we missed the NCAAs, we had some bigger OOC names on the slate and had a mixed record against them but they all turned out to have down years relative to the year before and playing them didn't do us any favors.

[NorthCaptivaGator]

It is silly to talk about keeping the starters in to long out of fear of injury. These kids are in the gym 24 seven. They're just as likely to turn an ankle's goofiing around after practice as they are playing in a game. Things like what happened with Will last year are freak injuries that can happen at any time. I agree you don't pull your starters until the opposing coach pulls theirs and they were still fouling with less than a minute left.

[madgator]

Originally Posted by NorthCaptivaGator

It is silly to talk about keeping the starters in to long out of fear of injury. These kids are in the gym 24 seven. They're just as likely to turn an ankle's goofiing around after practice as they are playing in a game. Things like what happened with Will last year are freak injuries that can happen at any time. I agree you don't pull your starters until the opposing coach pulls theirs and they were still fouling with less than a minute left.

I agree with you on this point.

and I don't think Wisconsin was pulling their starters because the coach wants to give his young players the minutes.....makes sense when you read his post-game comments.

[MJGator8104]

Originally Posted by NorthCaptivaGator

It is silly to talk about keeping the starters in to long out of fear of injury. These kids are in the gym 24 seven. They're just as likely to turn an ankle's goofiing around after practice as they are playing in a game. Things like what happened with Will last year are freak injuries that can happen at any time. I agree you don't pull your starters until the opposing coach pulls theirs and they were still fouling with less than a minute left.

Actually, lately, it seems they're more likely to get a concussion in practice.....

[ofmgator]

Stupid is as stupid says dejaveau!

[Go2gtr]

So Billy thinks differently than the OP. Hmmmm, who is the better informed and more experienced at making head coaching decisions?

The OP is entitled to his opinion but it doesn't mean he is right. We get all sorts of opinions on this forum.

One thing we know for sure is, he (or she) is not well informed compared to the head coach.

[madgator]

Originally Posted by Go2gtr

So Billy thinks differently than the OP. Hmmmm, who is the better informed and more experienced at making head coaching decisions?

The OP is entitled to his opinion but it doesn't mean he is right. We get all sorts of opinions on this forum.

One thing we know for sure is, he (or she) is not well informed compared to the head coach.

Already weighed in on the topic which has nothing to do with this question......


the coach is never wrong?

[Go2gtr]

Originally Posted by madgator

Already weighed in on the topic which has nothing to do with this question......


the coach is never wrong?

No, in this case the OP is wrong.

[gatormoe1]

Originally Posted by Go2gtr

No, in this case the OP is wrong.

Can you go into detail? What is so bad about getting FR more time with 2 minutes left instead of the last 30 seconds just to hold the ball?

This is like having the backup QB go out for the last play and kneel the ball.

[MJGator8104]

Originally Posted by gatormoe1

Can you go into detail? What is so bad about getting FR more time with 2 minutes left instead of the last 30 seconds just to hold the ball?

This is like having the backup QB go out for the last play and kneel the ball.

The freshmen were subbed in liberally all through the game.

[gatormoe1]

Originally Posted by MJGator8104

The freshmen were subbed in liberally all through the game.

Again, this has been posted and agreed with by every single person on this thread.

If he is so confident in them, why can't they finish the last 2 minutes of garbage time instead of the last 30 seconds just to hold the ball?

[xenythx]

Someone please put together a list of players in Billy's 17 years at Florida that suffered a significant injury in the last several minutes of a game because they were left in for too long.

[gatorfansrule]

Originally Posted by xenythx

Someone please put together a list of players in Billy's 17 years at Florida that suffered a significant injury in the last several minutes of a game because they were left in for too long.

1. .....
Ok done!

[MJGator8104]

Originally Posted by gatorfansrule

1. .....
Ok done!

Name?

[Go2gtr]

Originally Posted by madgator

Already weighed in on the topic which has nothing to do with this question......


the coach is never wrong?

The OP can't be "right" because he has no idea what Billy was thinking.

What if Billy wanted to get the attention of the younger guys because they haven't been putting their best into practice and he wanted to make the point that he can't trust them because their effort isn't there.

Don't bother arguing because this is a hypothetical. Point is he doesn't know what Billy was thinking.

[gatorfansrule]

Originally Posted by MJGator8104

Name?

Couldn't come up with one.

[MJGator8104]

Originally Posted by gatorfansrule

Couldn't come up with one.

LOL!