2013 Gator Class #19: DT Darious Cummings of East Miss. JC, Scooba MS

[DieAGator]

Originally Posted by stomp_and_chomp

Ogundeko will EE and count towards last years class. Also, if Sherit is playing DE, Ogundeko would take the Buck role... and could eventually be a LB.

Funny thing about Ogun is he's listed by Rivals and Scout as a LB, even an OLB by Scout. But thought I heard it said here he's not considered fast even as a DE prospect, no? I like him coming in at LB if he's suited for the position but if so, isn't he MLB or nothing? Rivals lists him at 227, Scout at 240. Just curious.

By the way, he might not have been high on our board as some other prospects who committed elsewhere I take it. Who would have been above him? Still like him coming in at LB if he has the speed and reaction LBs need.

Jarran Reed, I am hearing, is a beast and might be a more realistic replacement for Floyd than a true freshman.

Hoping for him or Adams no doubt. Hard to believe Adams would come even if he wanted to with two ready-to-play JUCOs on board if Reed comes with Cummings. My guess is staff not feeling like Adams comes, but just a guess.

All 3 are elite

Ogundeko included?

I think we have room for 2 more DL and 2 more OL (1 of which will more than likely be Trent Brown). I'm not expecting much more than that.

You mean all positions or OL/DL? Have any insights about Crowder, Kirkland, Outlaw, or Rod Johnson?

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

All three are still needed.

Not that I doubt you and at least from the "it can't hurt to have them" standpoint they would be good to have. But why do we need them with 7 DL from last class, five so far here? Do you happen to suspect some of past two DL classes might not make it on the field?

Seems to me 13 DL is more than enough to build a two deep even if you miss on a few. But if we have room for more, so be it, no doubt.

Adams is a plus 1 you will never stop recruiting him unless he tells you to.

Thing that concerns me about Adams is that looking at georgia's 12'/13' classes they haven't recruited all that well at DL and really need him. Easy to sell that he'll see early PT and will be georgia's "shining star". Would feel better if Mom loved Florida, we had beaten georgia, and he said UF feels like home.

Kind of odd to me as well Georgia passed on Kelsey Griffin as imo georgia hasn't recruited DL well enough past three classes to add him and risk scaring off Adams. But they let him get away to SC. Hope he gives the dogs all kinds of trouble for a few years.

Dont forget Jaynard Bostwick

Would be happy with JB as a consolation if we don't get Adams as it's not how Bostwick plays against Adams but how JB would play in our system against "their" OL. Earl Okine's comments makes me believe we can really coach DL into something.

Any idea if Elijah Daniel still actively recruited and mutually interested?

[GATORAZ]

DieAGator

1 If you have room you take the DLmen.
2 I think Ogundeko will play with his hand in the ground
3.Staff will stay on Adams Reed cant even visit unitl Jan
4 Of the list Florida is only recruiting Rod Johnson- they are looking at a few JUCO guards and tackles and also some off the radar High school kids like Trevon Young

5. Georgia likes there DT/DE's they have recruited they still really want Adams & Johnson

Right now the staff will take good Dlinemen and figure out where they will play them once they get on campus (I think)

[IndyGator09]

Not to get of the Cummings committing but what everyones thoughts of Brantley flirting with the team out west..He seems to be playing the recruiting game very well and with his size at 315 and talent he seems to be one that we can't let get away. Just seems to be a lot of chatter these days.

[G8RNTN]

Damn he looks like he is his mid 30's!!!!

[stomp_and_chomp]

Originally Posted by DieAGator

Funny thing about Ogun is he's listed by Rivals and Scout as a LB, even an OLB by Scout. But thought I heard it said here he's not considered fast even as a DE prospect, no? I like him coming in at LB if he's suited for the position but if so, isn't he MLB or nothing? Rivals lists him at 227, Scout at 240. Just curious.

By the way, he might not have been high on our board as some other prospects who committed elsewhere I take it. Who would have been above him? Still like him coming in at LB if he has the speed and reaction LBs need.

I was thinking MLB too, but still, I think he's capable of OLB. He's not the fastest, but he is best suited at Buck because he is nimble, at least, to get around the big guys.

Only guy above him is Elijah Daniel, imho. Daniel has grade issues and we'd still have to flip him from Clemson. Ogundeko is a much safer bet and on top of everything, having him come in early is a major bonus.

Originally Posted by DieAGator

Hoping for him or Adams no doubt. Hard to believe Adams would come even if he wanted to with two ready-to-play JUCOs on board if Reed comes with Cummings. My guess is staff not feeling like Adams comes, but just a guess.

Well, we need an immediate replacement for Floyd, that is the most pressing matter for our DT's.

2 JUCO's would be excellent, as they both have a couple years of beefing up under their belts. Both JUCO prospects are top notch, as well.

We still want, and need, Adams, even with 1-2 JUCO's. He would still see early time, no doubt. He has the type of skill that would trump most, if not all of, our 2012 DT's prospects.

Originally Posted by DieAGator

Ogundeko included?

Ya, I'd call him elite. He is the #1 rated prospect coming out of New York. That's something, I suppose. He has a ton of talent. It's just that most recruiting fans really wanted Daniel, but hey - Ogundeko is a very good get.

Originally Posted by DieAGator

You mean all positions or OL/DL? Have any insights about Crowder, Kirkland, Outlaw, or Rod Johnson?

I'm saying, for the close out of the class. I can see us getting 2 OL, Trenton Brown + 1, I don't know who the +1 would be, but I am willing to say it's none of the names in the quote. I like Denson from FSU, but he hasn't been offered by us yet, I still think it's going to come at some point.

For DL, I would say we will 100% take another DT. Jarran Reed and Montravius Adams are the best obtainable - landing both would be absolutely crazy and highly unlikely. There's also a chance we could lose Caleb Brantley.

Jarran Reed is a guy that we would have to flip soon or it's just not going to happen. It's down to Ole Miss and us for his services. Ole Miss is the favorite to land him, BUT his JUCO teammate friend (Cummings) flipped from Ole Miss to us. So, if both want to play together, then we are sitting pretty. They were also past teammates with Damien Jacobs at EMCC, which is helpful.

If we landed both JUCO DT's, like I think we might, then Montravius Adams may not happen... But we wouldn't stop recruiting him. If by some miracle Muschamp puts on the special treatment and sells him early playing time, even with the depth that we have built up, and he accepts and trusts that, then he would most assuredly be the +1 taken in this class... He's just one of those types of prospects that we CANNOT turn down. Whether or not he wants to sign with so many DL remains to be seen. It's been said before that he is visiting with his Mom for the player banquet... If for whatever reason he doesn't make it down, then we can completely cross him off the list... But if he sticks to his plans and turns up in Gainesville on December 8th, then I would say we are still in the thick of it.

Caleb Brantley has been rocking the boat since he committed way back when. His parents, I believe, are the leading factor in why he doesn't just pull the trigger and move on. FSU kinda scares me a little because it's still pretty close to home and his parents might be open to that... We'll see I guess.

Ehhh. I typed too much and now I am running late, in short, we are sitting at 21. Trenton Brown and another OL will put us at 23. Jarran Reed would put us at 24. Marcell Harris and Ebenezer Ogundeko will put us at 26, but again, they're both EE's and will count towards last years class. Monty Adams is the +1. So possibly 27 in all, which is about right. Depending on transfers/NFL the number could hit 28, but that's because of the EE's... would be a legit number.

[GATORAZ]

Originally Posted by IndyGator09

Not to get of the Cummings committing but what everyones thoughts of Brantley flirting with the team out west..He seems to be playing the recruiting game very well and with his size at 315 and talent he seems to be one that we can't let get away. Just seems to be a lot of chatter these days.

He was at the Florida game this weekend. He still hasn't been to FSU this year. His family wants him at Florida. There is a chance they flip him but they have to get him on campus first.

[LAGatorDoc]

Stomp, Reed can't even visit until Jan, so there is only a very small chance he commits without visiting

[bofusgators]

Yes, a great get. Go Gators!

[PSGator66]

There have been some outstanding JUCO transer DTs in the SEC - Cody, Fairley, Jenkins...

[ETGator1]

Welcome aboard Darious.

Strictly for next season, I'd take Reed. The last freshman DT to start for UF was Marcus Thomas. The best recruit we have for next season on the DL became Dominique Easley the moment he decided to return for his senior season.

Unless Darious Cummings headline and other places have it wrong, we have 20 verbal commitments counting Darious, not 21.

[ofmgator]

Welcome big guy...you made the right choice! Go Gators!

[your_perfect_enemy]

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

He was at the Florida game this weekend. He still hasn't been to FSU this year. His family wants him at Florida. There is a chance they flip him but they have to get him on campus first.

will he be in tally for the game this weekend?

[thedyc09]

Originally Posted by stomp_and_chomp

Well, we need an immediate replacement for Floyd, that is the most pressing matter for our DT's.

Our "immediate" replacement for Floyd ought to be Easley. He's stiffened up against the run this year, and with a full spring and fall practice, should be able to continue wrecking havoc in the interior, just like he was last year. We've got enough beef via JUCO and some stellar luck with guys like Bullard that we ought to be fine rotating guys at DE. As far as I'm concerned we need a zero tech DT to replace Hunter (likely via JUCO, unles Jacobs can fill that role) and the best of the rest.

[GATORAZ]

Originally Posted by ETGator1

Welcome aboard Darious.

Strictly for next season, I'd take Reed. The last freshman DT to start for UF was Marcus Thomas. The best recruit we have for next season on the DL became Dominique Easley the moment he decided to return for his senior season.

Unless Darious Cummings headline and other places have it wrong, we have 20 verbal commitments counting Darious, not 21.

Tyler Moore doesnt count on many sites because he is a transfer but when you add him we have 21.

[LAGatorDoc]

Originally Posted by thedyc09

Our "immediate" replacement for Floyd ought to be Easley. He's stiffened up against the run this year, and with a full spring and fall practice, should be able to continue wrecking havoc in the interior, just like he was last year. We've got enough beef via JUCO and some stellar luck with guys like Bullard that we ought to be fine rotating guys at DE. As far as I'm concerned we need a zero tech DT to replace Hunter (likely via JUCO, unles Jacobs can fill that role) and the best of the rest.

Orr will be a junior next year, and he is our immediate replacement for Hunter. He should fit in nicely as he has been in Muschamps system for two years. If Brantley sticks, he will be our Hunter of the future. Jarren Reed needs another year to learn the position if he comes because he is raw and won't have a winter/spring under his belt. Adams will be the Floyd of the future, but he's likely a dawg. I like Easley with Cummings, and Riles/Ivie as backups at the Floyd spot.

That is all

[woltes]

Is Damien Jacobs a DE or DT?

[wllmferg]

BOOOOOM! Nice pick up indeed. Love his refusal to mention that day care out West by name.

[LAGatorDoc]

Originally Posted by woltes

Is Damien Jacobs a DE or DT?

DT

[stomp_and_chomp]

Elijah Daniel is no longer with Clemson.

[VandyGator13]

Originally Posted by stomp_and_chomp

Elijah Daniel is no longer with Clemson.

Because he is going to commit to Fla? 😃