Caution re: Frazier

[gatordd]

Go frazier

[themistocles]

Spreul and Leah, ahh yes, I recall those first exhibition game performances.

And, of course, you are correct Tupacbiff, you simply cannot project anything from exhibition games.

Billy D is like all coaches, if he has an experienced player of roughly equal quality to a freshman, he will prefer to play the experienced player more.

If Frazier, Ogbueze and perhaps Graham/Walker combine for a total of 25-30 minutes per game, that will really help this team substantially, due to the basic shortage of experienced players (7 is not many).

Anyone who expects Frazier to beat out Wilbekin as a starter is simply not very aware of what Billy D values. You absolutely cannot make such judgments based on exhibition game performances.

[tupacbiff]

Spruel lighting up Paul pierce was an early season non Conf game.

[InstiGATOR1]

Originally Posted by tupacbiff

I remember Kendrick spreul lighting up all American Paul pierce as a frosh basically never to be heard from again.

Originally Posted by tupacbiff

Then you are wrong it was spruel.

Originally Posted by tupacbiff

Spruel lighting up Paul pierce was an early season non Conf game.

Actually no unless you want to claim that 6 points in 14 minutes is lighting someone up, here is the box score of the 11 January 1996 game:

http://www.rockchalk.com/games/g199613.sht

in which Spruel scored 6 points in 14 minutes. This is the only game Pierce played against UF.

Here is the box score of the 7 December 1994 game in which Spruel did not play:

http://www.rockchalk.com/games/g199504.sht

Memory is a funny thing. It turns out Paul Pierce did not play well against UF as a Frosh in 1996, but it is not clear that anyone on UF lit him up. I guess may be one could say Spruel and LeRon Williams out played Pierce who was a Frosh, I am sure a highly recruiting frosh, but not an All American yet.'

Of course the point of this thread still holds and I am sure we could find many example in UF history. This one just happened not to be quite what was remembered.

[tupacbiff]

Fine spreul outplayed him in limited min and shut him down when guarding him.

[Apeman]

Matt Walsh broke out as a freshman early and had a solid season. It has been done, but we'll see.

[InstiGATOR1]

Originally Posted by tupacbiff

Fine spreul outplayed him in limited min and shut him down when guarding him.

A far cry from "lighting" Pierce up and Pierce as a frosh was a far cry from already being an All American.

[madgator]

Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

You clearly did not watch any Monteverde games on ESPN last year. It was not clear from those games that he was the kind of shooter he was the other night.

Ouch!

have to beg to differ on that one.

[madgator]

Kendrick Spruel and Antrone Lee in the same thread.....I don't know what to do with myself.

All we need next is someone to bring out an Obiora Nnaji and the our work here is done!

Funny thing is that both those guys (Spruel and Lee) went on to have decent college careers.

[ETGator1]

He looks like a physical copy of Bradley Beal. Maybe he puts on 10 lbs and gets some time at the 3?

[StrangeGator]

No question we've got more depth at the two and possibly three than we expected. Better still, a guy who will be ready to start sooner than we thought, but I don't see him playing a huge role this year, especially when we get into the SEC schedule. Let's just enjoy his play through the end of the non-conf schedule.

[Go2gtr]

Hope he can rebound like Beal.

[InstiGATOR1]

Originally Posted by madgator

Ouch!

have to beg to differ on that one.

I did not watch every Monteverde game on ESPN last year, but Michael Frazier was about a 38% to 40% shooter from the arc from what I saw. That is a good shooter. He looked like knock down shoot in the exhibition. He probably will not be a 45% to 50% shooter from the arc in college, but I will be happy to be wrong.

[mastoidbone]

as long as he rebounds like svein dyrkolbotn we'll be ok.

[RattlerGator]

Originally Posted by unclepaulie

Frazier has the frame of a 4th year player, shot form is grade A, defends with aggression, is extremely athletic, works hard, and was the first guy off the bench. He is gonna be good, really good. Is he a Brad Beal? No but geez they don't come around often. Was he a little underrated by recruiting services? Heck yeah. D. Graham looked hecka solid too.

Agreed. I'm *very* excited by what I saw the other day. Frazier can flat-out PLAY !!! Truly, all of the frosh looked good to me. And Dillon Graham??? Wow !!!

[richardtangeman]

It's hard to give him less then an A+. Don't hit him bases on uinadequacy of opponent.

[hopngator]

Originally Posted by tampajack1

I remember Randall Leath scorng 27 points in his 1st game as a Gator.

Double dam! He went Randall Leath on us, after someone Sprueled us! Wow!

[grant1]

Originally Posted by tampajack1

I remember Randall Leath scorng 27 points in his 1st game as a Gator.

LOL, you remember Randall Leath?? I forgot about him until just now. What did he finish that year with, 50 points?

[tampajack1]

Originally Posted by grant1

LOL, you remember Randall Leath?? I forgot about him until just now. What did he finish that year with, 50 points?

For all practical purposes, he was never heard from again. He eventually became the PK Yonge basketball coach. Against Biscayne, he was 10 for 10 from the field (a Gator record) and 8 for 8 from the line. David Lee later went 12 for 12 from the field against Northeasern, to break Leath's record.

[lifetimeg8r]

As long as he shoots as well as Martti Kuisma, then I will be a happy camper.