Lakers just picked up Nash

[Tebowism0823]

Maybe Cuban should've spent more time going after the FA instead of trying to school the bobbleheads on espn

[madgator]

Thank god the Heat didn't do anything to pursue Nash. He is clearly a detriment on the floor at this stage in his career.

[corpgator]

Originally Posted by madgator

Thank god the Heat didn't do anything to pursue Nash. He is clearly a detriment on the floor at this stage in his career.

He's bad with the Lakers because the offense they run doesn't need an offensive passing point guard. He would have been great in the Heat's style of offense.

The Lakers' bench is garbage.

[madgator]

Originally Posted by corpgator

He's bad with the Lakers because the offense they run doesn't need an offensive passing point guard. He would have been great in the Heat's style of offense.

The Lakers' bench is garbage.

So it'd be great to take the ball out of Wade and LeBron's hands?


Not really. The Heat are perfectly constructed as is.

Did you see Nash getting pick pocketed by a backup point guard at mid-court? That's not an issue of not fitting in the offensive system (although I do agree with that issue as well). That's just pure embarrasment for an NBA point guard let alone one that will be in the NBA Hall of Fame one day.

[sleeze]

Originally Posted by madgator

So it'd be great to take the ball out of Wade and LeBron's hands?

Not really. The Heat are perfectly constructed as is.

Did you see Nash getting pick pocketed by a backup point guard at mid-court? That's not an issue of not fitting in the offensive system (although I do agree with that issue as well). That's just pure embarrasment for an NBA point guard let alone one that will be in the NBA Hall of Fame one day.

At times Mario Chalmers takes the ball up. So that is "taking the ball out of wades and james hands."

But i also agree the Heat are constructed where they dont need a Steve Nash.

Lebron, D-wade, and Chalmers all can handle the ball and can be unselfish and look for open teammates if need be.

[sleeze]

I think the Lakers will win alot of games this year....but i dont know if they can make it work with all the stars.

If Phil still coached them they might jell together faster.

They need to just make there offense as basic as can be. Run some inside out action with Howard. Run the pick and roll wkth Nash. And give Kobe some iso plays here and there.

[Ahab]

Lakers won't be a serious threat until they fire Mike Brown.

[corpgator]

Originally Posted by madgator

So it'd be great to take the ball out of Wade and LeBron's hands?


Not really. The Heat are perfectly constructed as is.

Did you see Nash getting pick pocketed by a backup point guard at mid-court? That's not an issue of not fitting in the offensive system (although I do agree with that issue as well). That's just pure embarrasment for an NBA point guard let alone one that will be in the NBA Hall of Fame one day.

With all the offensive firepower on the Heat, yes he would be great. He doesn't take a lot of shots away and makes his shots at a high percentage. He pushes the ball and makes everyone around him better, in the right style of offense.

NBA point guards get the ball stolen from them a lot because they actually play hard nosed defense in the NBA.

[madgator]

I encourage any thinking that Nash would be a good fit to re-watch any of the eastern conference finals or finals games. The Miami Heat's offense works best when the ball starts with LeBron, he breaks down the defense and either takes it himself or on the collapse, dishes out for either a direct shot or a second swing pass to the shooter.

It's not that complicated.

You have the most dominate perimeter physical specimen that has ever played the game and another guy who isn't too shappy himself (D-Wade)

but let's give the ball to a 37 year old slow guy who is a severe detriment defensively and in the offensive half court game.

Chalmers runs the offensive sets in MAYBE 25-33% of the plays. He is much better defensively than Chalmers, he hits his 3's and doesn't make mistakes. That's all they need.

[JimBobTheClown]

Originally Posted by madgator

I encourage any thinking that Nash would be a good fit to re-watch any of the eastern conference finals or finals games. The Miami Heat's offense works best when the ball starts with LeBron, he breaks down the defense and either takes it himself or on the collapse, dishes out for either a direct shot or a second swing pass to the shooter.

It's not that complicated.

You have the most dominate perimeter physical specimen that has ever played the game and another guy who isn't too shappy himself (D-Wade)

but let's give the ball to a 37 year old slow guy who is a severe detriment defensively and in the offensive half court game.

Chalmers runs the offensive sets in MAYBE 25-33% of the plays. He is much better defensively than Chalmers, he hits his 3's and doesn't make mistakes. That's all they need.

The fact that you're calling nash slow tells me a bunch. One game does not make a season. Broad generalizations aside.

[ThePlayer]

Originally Posted by Ahab

Lakers won't be a serious threat until they fire Mike Brown.

Looking forward to my Clips upstaging the Fakers.

[madgator]

Originally Posted by JimBobTheClown

The fact that you're calling nash slow tells me a bunch. One game does not make a season. Broad generalizations aside.

I also made a claim that another PG was slow....people made similiar comments as this one. Turns out that player had one of the slowest sprint times in the draft combine this past year.

[bakaduin]

Seriously one game and you are calling it? I hate the Lakers but it takes time to develop chemistry. This is akin to the people who were calling out Peyton Manning after a few games this season.

[madgator]

Originally Posted by bakaduin

Seriously one game and you are calling it? I hate the Lakers but it takes time to develop chemistry. This is akin to the people who were calling out Peyton Manning after a few games this season.

I honestly don't believe that this is an issue of chemistry. I think that the Lakers signing of Nash was short-sighted star gazing and the utilization of the Princeton offense with this combination of personnel is wrong (directly due to the addition of Nash).

Even in his best days, Nash was considered a below average defender at best. Did you watch the way the Mavs attacked the Lakers? The dynamic PG duo of Darren Collison and Rodrique Breaubois combined for 28 points on 12-20 shooting, 9 assists, 4 steals and only 2 TOs. In transition or secondary break situations where Nash got caught up having to pick up Mayo, the ball almost instantly went to Mayo. Basically, Nash had a big target on his shirt on the defensive end. That will be a constant problem all year.

Now, I can understand why the Lakers staff would think that the Princeton offense is a good idea. You have 6 players (Kobe, Nash, Howard, Gasol, Jamison) who are all smart veteran players and multi-faceted in their skills. Plus, the fact that the pace of play with the offense will be less tolling on their aged and injury prone players over the course of an 82 game season.

The Princeton offense requires highly intelligent players that are willing to play a controlled, deliberate game. With that being said, even though I love watching the offense and that it's being run with a quintessential 4 man and 5 man like Howard running backcuts down the lane, there is a reason why this offense hasn't really been utilized since the NBA instituted the shot clock. The offense takes too long to develop shots. Thus, the possession per game count will be down. If they are going to have defensive liabilities on the floor, they have to maximize their offensive possessions to counter that. Plus, they are going to lose a lot more possessions because of Howard's horrid FT shooting.

So the fact that is that Nash is really better suited for high paced style of attack. Honestly, Howard is as well. His back is probably a more serious problem than what he is letting on.

And for any one that wants to say that the fast paced style of play that benefits Steve Nash is support him being fast. I only have two words to counter that argument.

Nick Calathes.

[madgator]

2nd day in a row that the Lakers opposition is employing a defensive strategy to harass Nash full court almost every possession.

that shows a severe lack of respect

[madgator]

6 minutes left in this game and the Trailblazers have a +14 FGA advantage. also, the second game in a row that the Lakers are winning the hustle stats and still losing by double digits. Ton of turnovers out of this Laker team as well.

and today the Lakers don't have the excuse of a poor FT% or 3FG%, they are actually doing well in both categories.

this princeton offense experiment is going to go away really quickly. otherwise, this may not even be a team that ranks in the top 4 in the west.

[corpgator]

It looks like the legendariness of the Suns training staff is real.