How did we resolve the scholarship issue?

[missourigator]

I was out of the country for most of July and August so forgive me for asking this question. When I left we were one scholarship over. How was that resolved? Or was it?

[MJGator8104]

One of the players agreed to be a walkon. We don't know which one.

[rserina]

It probably won't become public knowledge anytime soon.

[REM08]

Hope someone didn't get the Pitino treatment. Were there kids on the team that weren't really scholarship players (walkons) but had been given year by year deals if they scholarships weren't used? I like Billy, but I'm not a fan of recruiting better players and then working something out. Being witness to what Pitinio's doing up here, I never get a great feeling when things are worked out behind the scenes months after everyone is aware that the scholarship math doesn't add up. At least make it public and clear.

[gatormoe1]

Originally Posted by REM08

Hope someone didn't get the Pitino treatment. Were there kids on the team that weren't really scholarship players (walkons) but had been given year by year deals if they scholarships weren't used? I like Billy, but I'm not a fan of recruiting better players and then working something out. Being witness to what Pitinio's doing up here, I never get a great feeling when things are worked out behind the scenes months after everyone is aware that the scholarship math doesn't add up. At least make it public and clear.

Nope

[kygator]

It was worked out prior to getting our last transfer, not months after recruiting another player.

[jmoliver]

Thank you for being the moral compass of college basketball. I would put Billy's ethics up against any coach in college sports.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by jmoliver

Thank you for being the moral compass of college basketball. I would put Billy's ethics up against any coach in college sports.

This is the problem with some of you - its either all or nothing, black or white. I'd put his ethics up against anyone's as well. Does that mean he's beyond any type of criticism? That he's perfect?

I'm just echoing the same opinion on this that I've seen gator posters say as well. I'm not a fan of promising more than 13 kids that they'll get one of the 13 scholarships. It means someone doesn't have the scholarship they thought they did. They get to transfer (Rimmer I guess) or they get to pay their own way. When the staff figures out how they make this adjustment doesn't matter.

I think a lot of Billy and realize that criticizing him, as a rival poster, is risky in the first place. IMO, some of you are overly sensitive about this and take it as me calling for his job or something. This is usually the same bunch making excuses for it like the family being wealthy and wanting to take one for the team, or the timing being different, or things being handled just fine and that maybe we'll find out what happened one day - and then pointing to Billy's track record or good reputation. Isn't it at least somewhat possible that an overall great guy and hall of fame worthy coach errors on the side of over signing sometimes and handles it the best he can (after all, its difficult to project roster turnover into the future)???... I don't feel as though i'm really heaving THAT much criticism his way.

[TheGr8rGator]

I've heard that it was Cody Larson who is now off scholarship, because of breaking team rules or something of the such.

[InstiGATOR1]

Players sometimes unexpectedly leave, but also sometime unexpectedly stay. That leads to scholarship number issues. Usually someone just leaves, but given NCAA rules, I can see a player staying a year to graduate so they can move and play more without sitting out after they graduate.

[themistocles]

No one is perfect, although some perhaps falsely believe that some were (Jesus, Mohammed, The Buddha, Zoroaster, Odin, Apollo, Jupiter, etc.).

Also, everyone views things from different perspectives, so what may seem like an awesome thing to one person may appear to be the work of Beelzebub to another.

Recruiting in Division I college sports has escalated well beyond the realms of reason and into the stratosphere of insanity.

I really think that Bob Marley said it best: "Don't worry, be happy."

[ugaGator]

themis, you're wrong

[swampgas44]

Originally Posted by themistocles

No one is perfect, although some perhaps falsely believe that some were (Jesus, Mohammed, The Buddha, Zoroaster, Odin, Apollo, Jupiter, etc.).

Also, everyone views things from different perspectives, so what may seem like an awesome thing to one person may appear to be the work of Beelzebub to another.

Recruiting in Division I college sports has escalated well beyond the realms of reason and into the stratosphere of insanity.

I really think that Bob Marley said it best: "Don't worry, be happy."

Well, that pretty much sums up the view from "The Dark Side".

[your_perfect_enemy]

Originally Posted by themistocles

No one is perfect, although some perhaps falsely believe that some were (Jesus, Mohammed, The Buddha, Zoroaster, Odin, Apollo, Jupiter, etc.).

Also, everyone views things from different perspectives, so what may seem like an awesome thing to one person may appear to be the work of Beelzebub to another.

Recruiting in Division I college sports has escalated well beyond the realms of reason and into the stratosphere of insanity.

I really think that Bob Marley said it best: "Don't worry, be happy."

except that Bob Marley never said that but Bobby McFerin agrees

[REM08]

Originally Posted by swampgas44

Well, that pretty much sums up the view from "The Dark Side".

Made me laugh.

[StrangeGator]

Originally Posted by TheGr8rGator

I've heard that it was Cody Larson who is now off scholarship, because of breaking team rules or something of the such.

That would surprise me. He's an out of state student. He would likely have transferred before agreeing to play $25,000 a year plus room and board to stay.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by StrangeGator

That would surprise me. He's an out of state student. He would likely have transferred before agreeing to play $25,000 a year plus room and board to stay.

I recently heard that 13 out of the 14 SEC schools (for football) can get waivers for scholarship athletes where the athletic department only has to reimburse the university at the in-state rate (reimbursement for scholarship obviously).

I know this is for football and I know its for people who HAVE scholarships. But I'm wondering if there might be any implications in situations like these. Could a player who goes off of scholarship have any way to pay at the in-state rate?

This is probably apples and oranges, but some of you probably know more about it than I do.

[InstiGATOR1]

Originally Posted by REM08

I recently heard that 13 out of the 14 SEC schools (for football) can get waivers for scholarship athletes where the athletic department only has to reimburse the university at the in-state rate (reimbursement for scholarship obviously).

I know this is for football and I know its for people who HAVE scholarships. But I'm wondering if there might be any implications in situations like these. Could a player who goes off of scholarship have any way to pay at the in-state rate?

This is probably apples and oranges, but some of you probably know more about it than I do.

I was wondering about this too. My thought was that the UAA's probably make athletes become Florida residents so that they qualify for instate tuition after the first year. In that case Larson would be a Florida resident now and would pay in state tuition.

When I was in college NC was very tough about coming to the state for a year as a student and then claiming residence. I am not sure how tough Florida is about such a change in status.

[MJGator8104]

Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

I was wondering about this too. My thought was that the UAA's probably make athletes become Florida residents so that they qualify for instate tuition after the first year. In that case Larson would be a Florida resident now and would pay in state tuition.

When I was in college NC was very tough about coming to the state for a year as a student and then claiming residence. I am not sure how tough Florida is about such a change in status.

Our son became a Fl resident before he even started at UF (my parents live in Interlachen and he used their address). Because he graduated HS in TN, he entered UF as an out of state student regardless of his permanent Florida address. He was never allowed to change to an instate student and, believe me, we tried.

[Gator_Tom66]

Originally Posted by jmoliver

Thank you for being the moral compass of college basketball. I would put Billy's ethics up against any coach in college sports.

Especially Cal.