Omega-3 pills linked to higher cancer risk in women

[Dreamliner]

A study examined more than 2,500 people in France with a history of heart disease and found that taking Omega-3 pills OR Vitamin B was linked to a higher cancer risk:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com

So, what do we eat ? Food ?

[Gatorgal04]

I couldn't find this on the sentinel site, but here's another link: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-vba021712.php

[Dreamliner]

Thanks!

Add this study to the recent study that showed increase risk of mortality in older women who took multivitamin supplements.

[Dreamliner]

Has anyone read Michael Pollan's In Defense Of Food ? He has coined a term, "nutritionism', to denote the sort of fanaticism, almost peculiar to modern America, wherein food has been reduced to a delivery system for certain nutrients to be targeted.

Take-home: stop obsessing about nutrients. Just enjoy food in modest amounts. Note that the people of Cyprus who formed the basis for the "Mediterranean Diet" recommendations consumed far fewer calories and were much more active than average Americans.

[Gatorgal04]

As an FYI, I'm a participant in a Harvard Medical School study on the effects of Omega-3 and Vitamin D. I've never taken vitamin supplements, but agreed to be in the study. Participants cannot have a history of heart disease or cancer. We'll see if these hurt or help as we go along.

I think I'm getting the real things and not the placebos because my dry eye problems have ceased!

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by Gatorgal04

As an FYI, I'm a participant in a Harvard Medical School study on the effects of Omega-3 and Vitamin D. I've never taken vitamin supplements, but agreed to be in the study. Participants cannot have a history of heart disease or cancer. We'll see if these hurt or help as we go along.

I think I'm getting the real things and not the placebos because my dry eye problems have ceased!

You're famous!

Look forward to the findings.

[Dreamliner]

And of course there is the recent finding that aspirin does not decrease risk of fatal heart attack.

Rule-of-thumb: if it seems to good to be true ...

[LeafUF]

Originally Posted by Gatorgal04

I think I'm getting the real things and not the placebos because my dry eye problems have ceased!

Is that supposed to be a benefit of Vitamin D or Omega 3? I have never heard about supplements easing dry eyes before.

[96Gatorcise]

Dream, it was a statistical significance which means it was minute. Also you are dealing with unhealthy individuals who are already at an increased risk for developing diseases. Nowhere is it printed that any lifestyle changes were made. So the could have developed CAD or had an heart attack and not change one thing.

[Dreamliner]

"Despite the low numbers ... the results are significant."

This study is perhaps a classic case of modest hope yielding to shock and dismay.

[96Gatorcise]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner

Has anyone read Michael Pollan's In Defense Of Food ? He has coined a term, "nutritionism', to denote the sort of fanaticism, almost peculiar to modern America, wherein food has been reduced to a delivery system for certain nutrients to be targeted.

Take-home: stop obsessing about nutrients. Just enjoy food in modest amounts. Note that the people of Cyprus who formed the basis for the "Mediterranean Diet" recommendations consumed far fewer calories and were much more active than average Americans.

Also just to point out Ancel Keys has been discredited for cherry picking his statistics when he developed his hypothesis on the Mediterranean diet. He picked 2 small islands and disregarded the rest of the Mediterranean Sea because it did not support his theory.


And like you always point out "there are lab results and field results" This is a case of low numbers being significant in the lab.....

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by 96Gatorcise

Also just to point out Ancel Keys has been discredited for cherry picking his statistics when he developed his hypothesis on the Mediterranean diet. He picked 2 small islands and disregarded the rest of the Mediterranean Sea because it did not support his theory.


And like you always point out "there are lab results and field results" This is a case of low numbers being significant in the lab.....

Oh, I'm not recommending the Mediterranean Diet. I'm only pointing out that fewer calories and greater activity are rarely if ever adduced as a factor in commending the Mediterranean Diet. It's always red wine, fish and veggies, etc. In other words, again we're back to the notion of *adding* things to the diet to impart health.

That's the problem with we Americans. Our math sucks. We already know how to add. We just don't know how to subtract (eat less, tout simple). And contrary to popular belief, we're not fat because we replaced fat with carbs. We're fat because we kept eating the fat AND we began to eat more carbs. Again, more calories!

[amangator08]

Originally Posted by LeafUF

Is that supposed to be a benefit of Vitamin D or Omega 3? I have never heard about supplements easing dry eyes before.

Yep. My mom has ocular rosacea, and her DR recommended fish oil capsules to support eye health.

[96Gatorcise]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner

Oh, I'm not recommending the Mediterranean Diet. I'm only pointing out that fewer calories and greater activity are rarely if ever adduced as a factor in commending the Mediterranean Diet. It's always red wine, fish and veggies, etc. In other words, again we're back to the notion of *adding* things to the diet to impart health.

That's the problem with we Americans. Our math sucks. We already know how to add. We just don't know how to subtract (eat less, tout simple). And contrary to popular belief, we're not fat because we replaced fat with carbs. We're fat because we kept eating the fat AND we began to eat more carbs. Again, more calories!

here is a great interview

http://vimeo.com/36448893

[Gatorgal04]

Originally Posted by amangator08

Yep. My mom has ocular rosacea, and her DR recommended fish oil capsules to support eye health.

Correct. It's supposed to be a byproduct of Omega 3.

[LeafUF]

Very cool, that's one benefit I did not know about.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by 96Gatorcise

here is a great interview

http://vimeo.com/36448893

Thanks, but I've actually read most of the book and still don't think Taubes gets it. Here, Stephan Guyenet debunks Taubes:

http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=2006

[LeafUF]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner

Thanks, but I've read the book and still don't think Taubes gets it. Much as it might infuriate him, tell him I said calories are still king.

Of course I doubt that he'd fly off the handle. I think it's Vegans who are notorious for their tempers.

Don't tell a vegan that the china study is bad science and extremely flawed. They get very angry.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by LeafUF

Don't tell a vegan that the china study is bad science and extremely flawed. They get very angry.

They need to calm down and eat something with a face.