vert--a lot of Muslims despise America and a significant percentage of radical Islamists are prepared to die for their religion. Some people who call themselves "Christian" also hate our country, as John Hinderaker (Power Line) noted yesterday:
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JOHN adds: One seriously hesitates to draw the conclusion that Barack Obama is a fool, no matter how strongly the evidence may point in that direction. But what are we to make of a man who is ignorant of history; who is ignorant of economics; who despises his own country; and who appears to believe that awareness of his own wonderfulness is enough to guide him? To put it charitably, he has a great deal to learn, and not much time to learn it.
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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive.../11/024959.php
Back to the Muslims...
A Gallup poll of 10 countries (which included the U.S.) showed that 7% of Muslims thought the 9/11 attacks were
totally justified. 13.5% thought they were at least
largely justified. 36.5% thought they were at least "somewhat justified."
http://www.danielpipes.org/5967/counting-islamists
So at a bare minimum, it appears that at least (roughly) 7% of the Muslims surveyed were quite radicalized.
The Islamic Supreme Council of America's Hisham Kabbani says 5-10 percent of American Muslims are extremists.
Daniel Pipes on what it means to be an Islamist:
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Oct. 9, 2008 update: Discussion about the slippery nature of this topic with Barry Rubin of The Interdisciplinary Center, Herzliya, led to his offering this definition of an Islamist:
1.An Islamist is someone who wants the state to be ruled by Islamic law and by leaders committed to its thoroughgoing implementation.
2.An Islamist holds such ideas, is active in revolutionary movements to bring them about, and votes for Islamist parties.
He adds that "Islamist parties may participate in elections at times, not engage in violence for a while, or pretend to accept democracy, but their goals are still revolutionary and they are quick to abandon such tactics if they deem that course more likely to abvance their cause. Using moderate rhetoric to fool foreigners or avoiding radical methods because they are intimidated by the regime's power or repression does not make them moderate."
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http://www.danielpipes.org/5967/counting-islamists
Bottom line, Muslims need to be scrutinized more carefully than Christians, especially those applying for positions in the intelligence agencies.
Common sense analysis from Daniel Pipes:
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When a Muslim in the West for no apparent reason violently attacks non-Muslims, a predictable argument ensues about motives. The establishment – law enforcement, politicians, the media, and the academy – stands on one side of this debate, insisting that some kind of oppression caused Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, to kill 13 and wound 38 at Ft. Hood on Nov. 5. It disagrees on the specifics, however, presenting Hasan as the victim alternatively of “racism,” “harassment he had received as a Muslim,” a sense of not belonging,” “pre-traumatic stress disorder,” “mental problems,” “emotional problems,” “an inordinate amount of stress,” or being deployed to Afghanistan as his “worst nightmare.” Accordingly, a typical newspaper headline reads “Mindset of Rogue Major a Mystery.”.
Instances of Muslim-on-unbeliever violence inspire the victim school to dig up new and imaginative excuses. Colorful examples (drawing on my article and weblog entry about denying Islamist terrorism) include:
■1990: “A prescription drug for … depression” (to explain the assassination of Rabbi Meir Kahane)
■1991: “A robbery gone wrong” (the murder of Makin Morcos in Sydney)
■1994: “Road rage” (the killing of a random Jew on the Brooklyn Bridge)
■1997: “Many, many enemies in his mind” (the shooting murder atop the Empire State Building)
■2000: A traffic incident (the attack on a bus of Jewish schoolchildren near Paris)
■2002: “A work dispute” (the double murder at LAX)
■2002: A “stormy [family] relationship” (the Beltway snipers)
■2003: An “attitude problem” (Hasan Karim Akbar’s attack on fellow soldiers, killing two)
■2003: Mental illness (the mutilation murder of Sebastian Sellam)
■2004: “Loneliness and depression” (an explosion in Brescia, Italy outside a McDonald’s restaurant)
■2005: “A disagreement between the suspect and another staff member” (a rampage at a retirement center in Virginia)
■2006: “An animus toward women” (a murderous rampage at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle in 2006)
■2006: “His recent, arranged marriage may have made him stressed” (killing with an SUV in northern California in 2006)
Additionally, when an Osama bin Laden-admiring Arab-American crashed his plane into a Tampa high-rise, blame fell on the acne drug Accutane.
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Finally, the jihad school of thought attributes importance to the Islamic authorities’ urging American Muslim soldiers to refuse to fight their co-religionists, thereby providing a basis for sudden jihad. In 2001, for example, responding to the U.S. attack on the Taliban, the mufti of Egypt, Ali Gum’a, issued a fatwa stating that “The Muslim soldier in the American army must refrain [from participating] in this war.” Hasan himself, echoing that message, advised a young Muslim disciple, Duane Reasoner Jr., not to join the U.S. army because “Muslims shouldn’t kill Muslims.”
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http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/09/s...-daniel-pipes/
Pipes goes on to note that Hasan passed out Korans to his neighbors before the attacks, and had stated on prior occasions "I'm a Muslim first and an American second." Hasan had justified suicide bombings and had stated that Muslims had the right to raise up and attack Americans. One psychiatrist who worked with Hasan has described him as being "almost belligerent" about his religion.
Now we're seeing people claim that Hasan's religion played little or no role in the Fort Hood attack, just the latest example of political correctness run amok.
Politically correct: looking for negative correlations involving Christians:
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I wouldn't be surprised if the least educated states are also among the most religious.
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And:
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Yes there are general trends.
My guess is that less educated states are also more religious...
...But I think that, in general, religion is more prevalant in less educated areas.
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But when I posted a thread title "Muslim CIA station chief rapes 2 women" (my best recollection of the title) rivergator responded:
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Obviously you and Schlussel are trying to indict the whole religion. If the guy were Christian should the headline be 'Christian agent charged in rapes...?
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If the guy did what he's accused of they should throw the book at him. But the religion angle is ridiculous.
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There is, of course, a correlation between Islamism and misogyny, and one imagines it's stronger than the correlation between being "less educated" and "religious." Christianity is the dominant U.S. religion, and I have little doubt that it is usually Christians that leftists have in mind when they indict the "religious."
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