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BobK89 · 11-11-2009, 09:34 AM

Of the uninsured number, in my 20's I had insurance with a $1000 deductible. I had no health conditions that needed to be followed, I didn't get "sick" requiring doctor's visits and I had no spouse or children.

Why not make that plan available to those in their 20s?

Oh, and one other thing: are we going to see M. Moore driving around the Capitol reading the 2000 page health care bill over an ice cream truck speaker to ensure that Congress has heard it? Worked for him in his "Documentary", so where is his outrage now?

dlowe2k2 · 11-11-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by g8orbill

ASA-that 50 million number is bogus. And no one is denied medical treatment.

Bill, virtually every sentence in that post is bogus. He has been spoon fed by the liberal media since birth.

dlowe2k2 · 11-11-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by g8orbill

Here is a pretty good assessment of bozobama care-from a lib no less.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...235765894.html

good read

DaveFla · 11-11-2009, 09:56 AM

And 16 million are unemployed by last count. Which do you think is more important? A job? Or health insurance?

Anyone who doesn't think the ultimate goal is single-payer health insurance, that is provided by the government, isn't their ultimate goal is incredibly naive.

dlowe2k2 · 11-11-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveFla

And 60 million are unemployed by last count. Which do you think is more important? A job? Or health insurance?

Anyone who doesn't think the ultimate goal is single-payer health insurance, that is provided by the government, isn't their ultimate goal is incredibly naive.

Come on Dave, you know the unemployed would rather have health insurance.

dadx4 · 11-11-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rivergator

You really this is not intended to replace private sector insurance, right? It is for those who don't have insurance.
And you talk about others missing the point?

It's not intended to but it will River.

dlowe2k2 · 11-11-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dadx4

It's not intended to but it will River.

Dad, you really think it isn't the long term goal?

DaveFla · 11-11-2009, 10:04 AM

Edit: 16 million unemployed. I wonder how many of that 16 million are more concerns over having affordable medical insurance than having a job.

cjgator76 · 11-11-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rivergator

You guys really figure the goal is single payer, everyone in the country, employed or not will get forced into the same govt insurance policy?

Whether the intent is for everyone to have the exact same policy, down to the last detail, I'm not sure.

But is the goal single payer? Absolutely. Is the public option viewed as a means to that end? Absolutely. Credit the proponents who are honest enough to admit it.

Gator_Tom66 · 11-11-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cjgator76

Whether the intent is for everyone to have the exact same policy, down to the last detail, I'm not sure.

But is the goal single payer? Absolutely. Is the public option viewed as a means to that end? Absolutely. Credit the proponents who are honest enough to admit it.

spot on as usual

malligator · 11-11-2009, 01:05 PM

Just look at the jump that's already been made. During his campaign Obama talked about reducing waste and fraud and streamlining health records to reduce the cost of healthcare. Now he's using those things--which will never happen anyway--as a way to pay for ObamaCare. Once they get a foothold with ObamaCare v1.0 they will continue to grow and expand it until it is the only option.

**bivensarm** · 11-11-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rivergator

You guys really figure the goal is single payer, everyone in the country, employed or not will get forced into the same govt insurance policy?

Of course. The Left wants an NHS in the US. I don't think it's even controversial to say that.

**shelbygt350** · 11-11-2009, 01:33 PM

NHS = control over your life. Control over what you eat, where you live and how long. Control over who lives, who dies. It is the road to a life like in Cuba.

Example: In Cuba a pregnant woman gets total free health care. But if any test indicates that the fetus maybe (big maybe) have a health issue (as in Tim Tebow in womb) then she is encouraged to abort. If she aborts, it's free. If she chooses not to abort, she loses all health care. Is that not where this train leads?

11-11-2009, 09:34 AM	#21
BobK89 Heisman Winner Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,243	Of the uninsured number, in my 20's I had insurance with a $1000 deductible. I had no health conditions that needed to be followed, I didn't get "sick" requiring doctor's visits and I had no spouse or children. Why not make that plan available to those in their 20s? Oh, and one other thing: are we going to see M. Moore driving around the Capitol reading the 2000 page health care bill over an ice cream truck speaker to ensure that Congress has heard it? Worked for him in his "Documentary", so where is his outrage now? __________________ "Fredo, you're my older brother and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the family again. Ever." -- Michael Corleone, "The Godfather"

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11-11-2009, 09:56 AM	#24
DaveFla Heisman Winner Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,260	And 16 million are unemployed by last count. Which do you think is more important? A job? Or health insurance? Anyone who doesn't think the ultimate goal is single-payer health insurance, that is provided by the government, isn't their ultimate goal is incredibly naive.

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DaveFla Heisman Winner Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,260	Edit: 16 million unemployed. I wonder how many of that 16 million are more concerns over having affordable medical insurance than having a job.

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malligator All American Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,707	Just look at the jump that's already been made. During his campaign Obama talked about reducing waste and fraud and streamlining health records to reduce the cost of healthcare. Now he's using those things--which will never happen anyway--as a way to pay for ObamaCare. Once they get a foothold with ObamaCare v1.0 they will continue to grow and expand it until it is the only option.

11-11-2009, 01:33 PM	#33
shelbygt350 VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,271	NHS = control over your life. Control over what you eat, where you live and how long. Control over who lives, who dies. It is the road to a life like in Cuba. Example: In Cuba a pregnant woman gets total free health care. But if any test indicates that the fetus maybe (big maybe) have a health issue (as in Tim Tebow in womb) then she is encouraged to abort. If she aborts, it's free. If she chooses not to abort, she loses all health care. Is that not where this train leads?