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Spurffelbow833 · 02-28-2013, 09:34 AM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...join-the-jets/

The Jets plan to take 5 QB's into training camp, none of them named Tim Tebow and one of them named Quinn. Yet they still haven't traded or released him. Why does he put up with this crap?

ACCecil · 02-28-2013, 09:50 AM

I think Tim should have gone to the Jags a few years ago even if it was less money and less publicity compared to NY. Publicity? Really? I hope that didn't figure in to why he went to NY.

I know the new Jags GM said they don't have plans for Tim but I believe the owner would welcoem him and if I was Tim, or Tim's agent, I'd lobby the Jags hard 24/7 for basically a no guarantee contract just as long as he got a fair shot.

If he can't hook on with the Jags, who apparently don't want him, his option are ..............................?

Not sure.

**fubar1** · 02-28-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ACCecil

I think Tim should have gone to the Jags a few years ago even if it was less money and less publicity compared to NY. Publicity? Really? I hope that didn't figure in to why he went to NY.

I know the new Jags GM said they don't have plans for Tim but I believe the owner would welcoem him and if I was Tim, or Tim's agent, I'd lobby the Jags hard 24/7 for basically a no guarantee contract just as long as he got a fair shot.

If he can't hook on with the Jags, who apparently don't want him, his option are ..............................?

Not sure.

The NFL just needs to fold up the shop on the Jags and let the rest of the teams pick over the players. The franchise is dead, the owner and GM are dolts and the city doesn't adequately support the team.

Time to do what already should have been done.

SkyChimp · 03-01-2013, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fubar1

The NFL just needs to fold up the shop on the Jags and let the rest of the teams pick over the players. The franchise is dead, the owner and GM are dolts and the city doesn't adequately support the team.

Time to do what already should have been done.

Couldn't disagree more with you. The same statement has been said in the past about the Chiefs, Chargers, Saints, and Panthers. They are still here and their city & states support them.

mikehev · 03-01-2013, 07:46 AM

2 myths I have seen on this post so far...

1. "Tim Tebow cannot become a successful pro QB": evidence suggests the opposite, he was given a shot with a last place team, lead them to reverse momentum, and then win a playoff game against what was then the number 1 defense in the NFL. If he was given an adequate shot since that time and failed, this may be an argument to consider. The fact is, he has not been given any shot, thus speculation by a group of so-called "experts" who were wrong about him the first time somehow rules in this case? illogical.

2. "Jacksonville does not support its team": This is another farse. .500 teams in the NFL would have been happy to have had the fan support % per capita that Jacksonville, the 2nd worst team in the NFL this year, gave the Jags.

In Christ forever,
Mike
John 3:16

**gatordowneast** · 03-03-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fubar1

The NFL just needs to fold up the shop on the Jags and let the rest of the teams pick over the players. The franchise is dead, the owner and GM are dolts and the city doesn't adequately support the team.

Time to do what already should have been done.

Uhh..I am not particularly a Jags fan though we did have club seats the first 5 years, but do you realize the Jags were 22nd of 32 in attendance? Even in their worst years, they were never at the bottom in attendance, though why, I do not know?

Plenty of franchises (Buffalo, Oakland, Tampa, Miami,are in far worse shape (fan base) and Jag's new owner is probably in the top 2-3 owners in net worth. They also have a new GM and they have cleaned house bringing in bright, sharp, tech savy back office types replacing the holdovers who were clearly over matched, beaten down and burned out.

Jags suffered when they cut ties with Coughlin, brought in Shack Harris as GM and replaced him with someone worse...Gene Smith. Weak leaders attract other weak people and that is essentially what happened. New Owner is bringing in a new regime so we shall see.

**gatorman_07732** · 02-28-2013, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ACCecil

I think Tim should have gone to the Jags a few years ago even if it was less money and less publicity compared to NY. Publicity? Really? I hope that didn't figure in to why he went to NY.

I know the new Jags GM said they don't have plans for Tim but I believe the owner would welcoem him and if I was Tim, or Tim's agent, I'd lobby the Jags hard 24/7 for basically a no guarantee contract just as long as he got a fair shot.

If he can't hook on with the Jags, who apparently don't want him, his option are ..............................?

Not sure.

That was not an option

Distant Gator · 02-28-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ACCecil

I think Tim should have gone to the Jags a few years ago even if it was less money and less publicity compared to NY. Publicity? Really? I hope that didn't figure in to why he went to NY.

I know the new Jags GM said they don't have plans for Tim but I believe the owner would welcoem him and if I was Tim, or Tim's agent, I'd lobby the Jags hard 24/7 for basically a no guarantee contract just as long as he got a fair shot.

If he can't hook on with the Jags, who apparently don't want him, his option are ..............................?

Not sure.

Cecil you are a great poster but you are assuming things that are not factual in regards to Tebow and Jax. As far as I know, no one knows whether Tebow had a choice regarding Jax vs NY. The stories contradict. I've heard different things.

And if he did have a choice- it's clear that NY had a sales pitch "Come be our Wildcat QB" while Jax's was "Our coaches don't want you but the owner might because he could sell a few tickets." Which would you have taken?

(Not at Cecil.) As far as Tebow not being an NFL QB- that's another assumption that is not a fact. Didn't Tebow throw for 316 yards vs the #1 rated defense? Didn't he score 30 pts against that same D and win a playoff game? And didn't he take a team that was 1-4 and go 8-5- with 2 of those losses being to Super Bowl bound New England? Taking a last place team to the 2nd round of the playoffs SOUNDS like an NFL QB to me.

But I guess if Merrill Hoge says he isn't an NFL QB then he's not.

Tebowism0823 · 02-28-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Distant Gator

Cecil you are a great poster but you are assuming things that are not factual in regards to Tebow and Jax. As far as I know, no one knows whether Tebow had a choice regarding Jax vs NY. The stories contradict. I've heard different things.

And if he did have a choice- it's clear that NY had a sales pitch "Come be our Wildcat QB" while Jax's was "Our coaches don't want you but the owner might because he could sell a few tickets." Which would you have taken?

(Not at Cecil.) As far as Tebow not being an NFL QB- that's another assumption that is not a fact. Didn't Tebow throw for 316 yards vs the #1 rated defense? Didn't he score 30 pts against that same D and win a playoff game? And didn't he take a team that was 1-4 and go 8-5- with 2 of those losses being to Super Bowl bound New England? Taking a last place team to the 2nd round of the playoffs SOUNDS like an NFL QB to me.

But I guess if Merrill Hoge says he isn't an NFL QB then he's not.

+1

GATORAZ · 02-28-2013, 10:12 AM

Spurffelbow833 you cant trade people yet league year doesn't start until March 12.

Bradass · 02-28-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

Spurffelbow833 you cant trade people yet league year doesn't start until March 12.

So the Alex Smith trade was just my imagination?

atlantagator86 · 02-28-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bradass

So the Alex Smith trade was just my imagination?

The deal has been made but the actual trade can't be made yet.

GATORAZ · 02-28-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bradass

So the Alex Smith trade was just my imagination?

is this a serious question?

**G8RNTN** · 03-01-2013, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bradass

So the Alex Smith trade was just my imagination?

Will be official on march 12th.

gator996 · 02-28-2013, 10:15 AM

Personally, I would like to see him win the NYJ job...

tegator80 · 02-28-2013, 11:04 AM

Worse case scenario: The Jets keep 4-5 QBs all the way through the preseason and he's out in the final cuts. He won't have a team to practice with and will have to fight to be on somewhere as a practice player. Would the Jets deliberately hold onto that many with deliberate intentions of making sure they don't look like doofus's in mismanaging him?

Seeing last year I have to believe yes. The NFL is a cutthroat business and the New York market is the worse.

**gatorman_07732** · 02-28-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gator996

Personally, I would like to see him win the NYJ job...

996, you don't think he would even be given the chance do you? I mean I was real excited when he got here but he was not treated well at all.

**gator1986** · 03-03-2013, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gator996

Personally, I would like to see him win the NYJ job...

Id hate to see him win the jets job, I hate the jets

**Minister_of_Information** · 02-28-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tegator80

Worse case scenario: The Jets keep 4-5 QBs all the way through the preseason and he's out in the final cuts. He won't have a team to practice with and will have to fight to be on somewhere as a practice player. Would the Jets deliberately hold onto that many with deliberate intentions of making sure they don't look like doofus's in mismanaging him?

Seeing last year I have to believe yes. The NFL is a cutthroat business and the New York market is the worse.

Sounds like they're trying to kill his career to cover their ass. If he isn't worth anything as a QB why not just let him go?

GatorLaw · 02-28-2013, 12:13 PM

I don't think he has a choice at this point. He's presumably still under contract with the Jets and they'll have to fail to renew his contract when it terminates or release him or trade him in order for him to leave. I can't imagine they won't at least try to trade him once trades are allowed and if they can't trade him surely they'll release him. Why would they keep a guy with his cap hit on the team when Rex Ryan clearly isn't going to use him?