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Old 02-14-2013, 04:27 PM   #1
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As you know I got the pleasure this week to sit next to George Will at lunch at a Private Equity conference in Atlanta. He then went on to speak for over an hour to a group of almost 1,000. He was just brilliant.

While having lunch we discussed a lot of topics… those of you that know me aren’t surprised that the man could barely eat his lunch. He obviously lives politics and history.. but his passion is baseball. We talked about all of that. Here is some of what we chatted about during lunch..

Q- I, being a health care company exec, we of course talked a good deal about the ACA. George agreed with me whole heartedly that Universal Coverage has nothing to do with Universal Treatment. The net of the conversation was..

Will – The ACA is a complete disaster... that will haunt this country forever...


Q- We spent a long time talking about the absolute disaster that is the liberal media. I specifically asked about what we as a Country are going to do when the left-wing media is so absolutely brazen about their slanting of the news, such as Tina Brown telling everyone that if this was Bush the press would be killing him on the Drones issue and they would press for impeachment.

Will- At least the press is now completely out of the closet…. But it's OK…. Now everyone knows it with certainty. The liberals and the mainstream media can no longer try to deny it with a straight face. The conservative message can still get out there without their help. There is no question what so ever if Romney had the media support and cover Obama had during the election that he’d be President.


Q- I asked if Marco Rubio would be the lead candidate for 2016…

Will- Rubio is certainly on the short list but he’s not a sure thing. Jindal, Bush, Paul, Christie, and McDonnell all are in the mix. Also, Rubio isn’t an absolute lock to get a huge Latino vote. Rubio is Cuban not Mexican. There is a big difference.


Q- I asked George about the election and why he thought Romney lost.

Will - Romney lost because he wasn't as likeable. Simple as that. The Press was a key factor in Romney losing. Romney can come off as a bit detached and the press accentuated that at every turn. Romney would have made a very good president. The day of the election Romney was convinced he was going to win. George is clueless as to why so many Republicans stayed home on election day. It’s a mystery.


Q- Will I see Term Limits in my life time?

Will- No. There will never be term limits. The Congress will never put forth a Constitutional Amendment to the states that limits their terms. That is the cause of the mess that congress is. There are few statesmen just career politicians. If an incumbent makes it through primary he is in.


Q- Will Hillary run for President.

Will- Not convinced Hillary will run. Low on likeability


Q- Has the media tarnished the Tea Party name and brand so badly that it will fail?

Will- Absolutely not. The Tea party brand is strong and will continue to be a force.


Q- (We were having beef short ribs for lunch so I asked him if he perfered beef of pork ribs. (For Dudeman)

Will- Beef


Q- Who do you like in the National League?

Will- The Braves, Nationals, and Dodgers. As a Cub fan I have given up all hope.


George went on to speak for over an hour to the group. Here are some quotes that I caught. (I was scribbling like mad)

There will be sequestration.

We used to run deficits for the future. Now deficits are to pay for the present welfare state. This can only continue on for so long.

Obama is a serious man with a serious leftist agenda

Dependency IS the Obama agenda. Dependency IS the agenda.. not a byproduct of some other agenda.

Creative energy is in people not government. Obama disagrees.

Biden. Every significant improvement came from government.

Obama believes that Government is smarter at allocating resources than the public market. The Free Market should allocate opportunity not government.

66% of the Government budget is transfer payments.

The USA is reaching a tipping point. People are depending on Government via welfare or contracts outnumber the private Americans.

Two differences from new deal in 35
-Protracted retirement
-Competent healthcare and longevity

The welfare state and Medicare and Social Security was never built for protracted retirement and competent healthcare and longevity

For every average couple in Medicare… $109k paid in.. $340k taken out.

Lower birth rate is a problem in the welfare state. You run out of bodies to carry the welfare debt.

12 cents of every healthcare dollar is paid by a person. The rest is someone else

Do you ask doctor what's the price. Nobody knows. There are no prices.

Car insurance doesn’t cover oil and windshield washers… but Health insurance is supposed to?? Health insurance across state lines is the solution.

Preventable disease is causing the massive health costs. Diabetes. Heart disease. Aids. Violence. All personal choice diseases.

The US Tax code is lunacy. Codified envy.

Why do we have any Corporate income taxes?? Corporations don't pay taxes they collect taxes!!! (Yes!!)

Aside from Obama… Woodrow Wilson was most destructive man in US history

American used to be and “Aspirational Country” not an “Envious Country” which we are becoming.

You can blow all your money in Vegas on booze and gambling if you want… but try giving it to your kids… and the government will immediately step in.

American schools are a colossal disaster.

Problem with schools
-Coleman report studied schools. Quality of the family was key factor not money.
-Parent pupil ratio

There is no economic divide. There is an education divide. 74% of African American children are born to unmarried mothers. The "moral culture" of the “poor” is totally different from that of the middle class and above. The moral culture is what propagates being poor… not rich people and corporations. And the Government cannot write a law to fix culture…try as they may.

All college students should have to major in history. History will easily show what forms of government and commerce work and which don’t.

Government Gridlock is an American achievement The Founders wanted the government like this which is why the Constitution is full of blocking mechanisms. They wanted it slow. Government is functioning like Madison designed it.

Next 10 years will decide the future of the country. Are we for equality or freedom? It will be decided.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:39 PM   #2
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All college students should have to major in history. History will easily show what forms of government and commerce work and which don’t.
As a history major, I'd agree. But maybe Will might rethink that given my political orientation.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:59 PM   #3
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As a history major, I'd agree. But maybe Will might rethink that given my political orientation.
Nope... he'd just say "you should know better!"
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Nope... he'd just say "you should know better!"
Thanks for sharing this tidbit Moc - I've always respected Will's views on politics. Everything he said..... I agree with all of it.
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Will - Romney lost because he wasn't as likeable. Simple as that. The Press was a key factor in Romney losing. Romney can come off as a bit detached and the press accentuated that at every turn. Romney would have made a very good president. The day of the election Romney was convinced he was going to win. George is clueless as to why so many Republicans stayed home on election day. It’s a mystery.
Stunning. Given all the data showing an Obama victory, on election day Romney was still convinced he was going to win. Was Romney just ignoring the data and going with his gut feeling? We recently had a 'gut feeling' kind of president for 8 long years and that didn't work out so well. How can one say that one so clueless, so oblivious to the obvious evidence on election day, would have made a very good president?
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Stunning. Given all the data showing an Obama victory, on election day Romney was still convinced he was going to win. Was Romney just ignoring the data and going with his gut feeling? We recently had a 'gut feeling' kind of president for 8 long years and that didn't work out so well. How can one say that one so clueless, so oblivious to the obvious evidence on election day, would have made a very good president?
Uh, moc was probably too polite to ask why Will also pronounced Romney the sure winner right before election day. At least he got Iraq right. With his just wrong prognostication on climate change he's batting .333, not bad for baseball but not good for a paid speaker.
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I suprised you guys didn't just commit suicide right there with your salad folks, given how terrible you think our country and humanity is.
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I suprised you guys didn't just commit suicide right there with your salad folks, given how terrible you think our country and humanity is.
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I suprised you guys didn't just commit suicide right there with your salad folks, given how terrible you think our country and humanity is.
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thanks Moc- it is great that you got to break bread and talk with Will
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Good read. Thanks.

(and I kinda figured he was a beef guy)
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Thanks MOC! I personnally think the destruction of the country caused by the left is irreversible. The Amercan people have been so dumbed down and those on the left are absolutely marvelous liars. Bread and circuses.
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Thanks MOC! I personnally think the destruction of the country caused by the left is irreversible. The Amercan people have been so dumbed down and those on the left are absolutely marvelous liars. Bread and circuses.
Do you honestly believe the left if the only ones to blame for the state of our country?
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:17 PM   #15
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moc, very nice and impressive. Thank you for sharing

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Do you ask doctor what's the price. Nobody knows. There are no prices.
I am one that went without health insurance for an extended period of time because of my health and lifestyle. I always asked my doctor what visits and treatment would cost since I paid him cash. It's amazing in the difference between what a doctor would charge the carrier VS what he would charge you for paying cash.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:33 PM   #16
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moc, very nice and impressive. Thank you for sharing

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I am one that went without health insurance for an extended period of time because of my health and lifestyle. I always asked my doctor what visits and treatment would cost since I paid him cash. It's amazing in the difference between what a doctor would charge the carrier VS what he would charge you for paying cash.
Go on. Did he disclose the difference in margins?
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:54 PM   #17
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Go on. Did he disclose the difference in margins?
That is a damn good question and the short answer is no because I never had the opportunity to get in an in depth conversation about it with him. What I can tell you is I have a childhood friend that is a Surgeon and he told me that the margin depends on the specific care the patient has because of payment history. He did say Medicare and Medicaid are the worst. The catch is he has to make up for loses by over-charging other patients with public sector insurance.
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You can blow all your money in Vegas on booze and gambling if you want… but try giving it to your kids… and the government will immediately step in.
Lot's of dumb points made by Mr. Will, but this one stood out to me for whatever reason. These are the kind of dumb arguments conservatives try to make against the inheritance tax. As if income in Vegas isn't taxed. When you 'blow all your money in Vegas', it becomes income for someone else and it is taxed. Just like when you die and leave money to your heirs.
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A bunch of tripe from a bow tie wearing member of the beltway intelligentsia.

99% pure BS.
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A bunch of tripe from a bow tie wearing member of the beltway intelligentsia.

99% pure BS.
I know the truth is hard and insensitive. If you were here I'd give you a hug buddy...
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