01-29-2013, 07:18 PM
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Randy Moss: "I'm the greatest receiver to ever play this game."
"I don't really live on numbers. I really live on impact and what you're able to do out on the field," he said Tuesday. "I really think I'm the greatest receiver to ever play this game."
Jerry Rice responded with:
"I impacted the game by winning Super Bowls... Randy is still trying to win his first one, and I wish him the best, but I was very surprised that he said he's the best receiver to ever play the game. I leave that up to my fans to make that statement."
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012...t-wr-ever-play
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01-29-2013, 07:27 PM
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I think Randy was the better player
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01-29-2013, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
I think Randy was the better player
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Agree
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01-31-2013, 11:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GATORAZ
I think Randy was the better player
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Agree 100%.
Rice was great, but just like Emmitt, he also benefited from having a GREAT team around him for the better part of his career. The offense that San Fran was running was taylor made for Rice's skillset and having John Taylor on the other side with Joe Montana and Steve Young throwing certainly didn't hurt.
As for pure talent, explosiveness and some of the greatest and most spectacular catches made by a receiver---Moss is/was better than Rice.
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01-31-2013, 12:34 PM
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At the end of the day, it's about winning.
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It's a team game or do you really think Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino? The Cowboys and 49ers were dominant teams for much of the 80s and 90s. Stacked. Fact: Rice played with two hall of fame QBs for the majority of his career. Without those Qbs, his stats dropped. Now, we has older, yes, but they dropped nonetheless. Moss, as an older player, went to the Patriots and dominated immediately.
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ut just like Emmitt, he also benefited from having a GREAT team around him for the better part of his career.
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Exactly. Who is better? Smith or Sanders? I think, Sanders is obviously the better back. But, he played for Detroit so no rings and no supporting cast.
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01-31-2013, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ash
It's a team game or do you really think Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino? The Cowboys and 49ers were dominant teams for much of the 80s and 90s. Stacked. Fact: Rice played with two hall of fame QBs for the majority of his career. Without those Qbs, his stats dropped. Now, we has older, yes, but they dropped nonetheless. Moss, as an older player, went to the Patriots and dominated immediately.
Exactly. Who is better? Smith or Sanders? I think, Sanders is obviously the better back. But, he played for Detroit so no rings and no supporting cast.
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Moss with the Patriots: 4 Playoff games. 12 catches. 142 yards, 1 TD.
Really lit it up. GOAT! GOAT! GOAT!
Or maybe not... Rice beat that all to hell in just one of his Super Bowl performances.
BTW - in years prior to Brady, Culpepper went to three pro bowls and passed well over 3,000 yards four times, including one year over 4700 yards. There was no shortage of passing yards to be had with him. Moss was hardly hurting for someone to throw him the ball.
Next, as far as football being a team game..... YES, YES, YES!
It is a team game. You don't get to just skip out on a huge part of your job - blocking. You don't get to just jog because you're not the primary receiver. That's the kind of cancerous behavior that keeps very good, very talented teams from being great teams. It is the behavior of a loser.
In an earlier post, I listed probably 10 receivers I'd rather have, and in terms of building a winning team, no doubt that's a short list.
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01-31-2013, 06:37 PM
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All American
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GATORQUEDOG
Agree 100%.
Rice was great, but just like Emmitt, he also benefited from having a GREAT team around him for the better part of his career. The offense that San Fran was running was taylor made for Rice's skillset and having John Taylor on the other side with Joe Montana and Steve Young throwing certainly didn't hurt.
As for pure talent, explosiveness and some of the greatest and most spectacular catches made by a receiver---Moss is/was better than Rice.
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Moss could have played more years with great teams but he was not a team player interested in team goals. The Pats kicked him off the team. That's how valuable Moss was to a great team with a great coach and that why he played for bad teams and hasn't won anything.
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01-31-2013, 08:21 PM
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-shrug- I think individual players get way too much credit and way too much blame for team results in a greatest ever conversation. Take Marino versus Montana. Most would say Montana was better. But, I watched both those guys play. Marino was way better. Montana had better teams. e smith has the nfl all time yardage stat. But he played behind those awesome cowboy lines for years with a great qb and great wrs. Smith was good but certainly not better than guys like Dickerson, Faulk, Sanders, Payton, A Peterson, Billy Sims, Oj Simpson, Etc. . ..
was rice great? Yeah. But there's lots of wrs out there with similar or better skills.
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01-29-2013, 07:47 PM
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No one did it better than JR. When I read the comment by RM, JR was the first person that crossed my mind. And no way does RM end up with the receiving yards or td's Jerry has.
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01-29-2013, 07:53 PM
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Its not even close. Rice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moss
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01-29-2013, 08:02 PM
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01-29-2013, 08:09 PM
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Raymond Berry.
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01-29-2013, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DawgFanFromAlabam
Raymond Berry.
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01-29-2013, 08:20 PM
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All American
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Originally Posted by Jaggator
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I liked Unitas to Berry.
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02-03-2013, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ValdostaGatorFan
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Can anyone in the history of hats too big for your head wear one better than Moss? Let's see Rice try it.
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01-29-2013, 08:12 PM
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Randy sent his daughter Sydney to play hoops for the Gators. That's enough for me. Moss. He's certainly the most dynamic, spectacular.
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01-31-2013, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GatorJeff
Randy sent his daughter Sydney to play hoops for the Gators. That's enough for me. Moss. He's certainly the most dynamic, spectacular.
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You do realize that Moss was a one time Seminole? If Ray Lewis sent his kid to play at Florida, would he then be forgiven of his sins?
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01-29-2013, 08:12 PM
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He must have spent the night at the Holiday Inn Express!
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01-29-2013, 08:24 PM
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All SEC
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If I am picking a WR in their prime to put on my team I am taking Moss every time. He can do spectacular things regardless of his QB and makes up for any shortcomings with his ability to dominate whoever was defending him. If I have an elite QB capable of picking defenses apart then Rice may be the play because he is a better all around WR. Rice played 20 seasons and his QB made the pro bowl 13 times with 5 MVP awards. He had a long career with consistently good QB play which is a large part of his monster stats. You have to give him the title as the best ever based on the rings and stats, but for my money Moss is the better player.
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01-29-2013, 08:39 PM
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All SEC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gator2109
If I am picking a WR in their prime to put on my team I am taking Moss every time. He can do spectacular things regardless of his QB and makes up for any shortcomings with his ability to dominate whoever was defending him. If I have an elite QB capable of picking defenses apart then Rice may be the play because he is a better all around WR. Rice played 20 seasons and his QB made the pro bowl 13 times with 5 MVP awards. He had a long career with consistently good QB play which is a large part of his monster stats. You have to give him the title as the best ever based on the rings and stats, but for my money Moss is the better player.
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Moss was not a great receiver regardless of his qb. He was great with Cunningham, Culpepper and Brady. Not exactly Montana, Young and Gannon but all three Pro Bowl players. Randy's season with the Raiders and then the second go around with the Vikings and then the Titans were both disasters. He was also prone to disappearing in the playoffs.
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