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**chompalot** · 12-21-2012, 06:21 AM

Here's an OP-ED by the conservative judge that sentenced the Tuscon mass murderer Jared Lee Loughner. What I find interesting about this piece is the fact that he calls for the confiscation of the assault rifles and high-capacity magazines that people already possess. In other words, he wants the assault rifle banned reimposed but this time with some teeth to it. I happen to agree with him, I just don't know how it could be done. I guessing we'd just have to impose massive fines on anybody who is found with an assault rifle or extended-magazine.

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To guarantee that there would never be another Tucson or Sandy Hook, we would probably have to make it a capital offense to so much as look at a gun. And that would create serious 2nd Amendment, 8th Amendment and logistical problems.

So what's the alternative? Bring back the assault weapons ban, and bring it back with some teeth this time. Ban the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer and possession of both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Don't let people who already have them keep them. Don't let ones that have already been manufactured stay on the market. I don't care whether it's called gun control or a gun ban. I'm for it.

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There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Gun enthusiasts can still have their venison chili, shoot for sport and competition, and make a home invader flee for his life without pretending they are a part of the SEAL team that took out Osama bin Laden.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...,6774314.story

gator996 · 12-21-2012, 06:39 AM

They've used gun buybacks in other countries and from time-to-time in this country.

**chompalot** · 12-21-2012, 06:46 AM

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They've used gun buybacks in other countries and from time-to-time in this country.

Yes, that's what would have to be done.

gator996 · 12-21-2012, 06:52 AM

Oh, don't be silly chomp...

I can see the NRA commericals now...

"Can they buy your freedom?"
"Don't let them buy your 2nd Ammendment rights"

**chompalot** · 12-21-2012, 07:22 AM

I never thought banning the possession of these weapons would be practical (or maybe I should say easy), but if it became law a buy back program would be the fair thing to do.

Even Charles Krauthammer is calling for change.

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If we’re serious about curtailing future Columbines and Newtowns, everything — guns, commitment, culture — must be on the table. It’s not hard for President Obama to call out the NRA. But will he call out the ACLU? And will he call out his Hollywood friends?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...029_story.html

**gatorman_07732** · 12-21-2012, 08:00 AM

You can not confiscate guns in this country. What exactly makes him a conservative judge, just the fact that he was appointed by George W. Bush?

**chompalot** · 12-21-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

You can not confiscate guns in this country. What exactly makes him a conservative judge, just the fact that he was appointed by George W. Bush?

You can't tell the future. Hopefully, Americans will wake up and rid itself of these tea partiers so that we can get something passed into law that will ban these type of weapons.

**gatorman_07732** · 12-21-2012, 08:09 AM

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You can't tell the future. Hopefully, Americans will wake up and rid itself of these tea partiers so that we can get something passed into law that will ban these type of weapons.

So you admit that the title of your thread is a farce

**chompalot** · 12-21-2012, 08:13 AM

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So you admit that the title of your thread is a farce

Nice to see you have a picture of Albert Einstein, a bigtime liberal, as your avatar.

**gatorman_07732** · 12-21-2012, 08:53 AM

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Nice to see you have a picture of Albert Einstein, a bigtime liberal, as your avatar.

What does that have to do with anything?

MichaelJoeWilliamson · 12-26-2012, 10:53 AM

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You can't tell the future. Hopefully, Americans will wake up and rid itself of these tea partiers so that we can get something passed into law that will ban these type of weapons.

I am a member of our state tea party. Why do you wish to get rid of me? Is it because you think my views diverge from yours? Is it because you feel threatened by my views? Or do you wish to get rid of me just because you disagree with my views?

Now, how do you propose to get rid of me. Kill me? Lock me up? Ostracize me? How?

And why would you even want to do such a thing?

Why?

**chompalot** · 12-27-2012, 09:28 AM

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I am a member of our state tea party. Why do you wish to get rid of me? Is it because you think my views diverge from yours? Is it because you feel threatened by my views? Or do you wish to get rid of me just because you disagree with my views?

Now, how do you propose to get rid of me. Kill me? Lock me up? Ostracize me? How?

And why would you even want to do such a thing?

Why?

It's already happening. Their power is rapidly diminishing.

Day by day the Tea Party is becoming more and more unpopular in the eyes of the American people. The movement has been exposed as a bunch of uncompromising, absolutist and dogmatic extremists that are being controlled by a few billionaires. People are becoming more aware of just how detrimental it would be to our great nation if Tea Partiers were, somehow, able to achieve a majority in Congress or even worse--God forbid--the Presidency. Thankfully, though, there soon won't be much of a chance for any politician to win state-wide office as a Tea Party member. They are becoming irrelevant.

MichaelJoeWilliamson · 12-27-2012, 11:01 AM

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It's already happening. Their power is rapidly diminishing.

Day by day the Tea Party is becoming more and more unpopular in the eyes of the American people. The movement has been exposed as a bunch of uncompromising, absolutist and dogmatic extremists that are being controlled by a few billionaires. People are becoming more aware of just how detrimental it would be to our great nation if Tea Partiers were, somehow, able to achieve a majority in Congress or even worse--God forbid--the Presidency. Thankfully, though, there soon won't be much of a chance for any politician to win state-wide office as a Tea Party member. They are becoming irrelevant.

Answer my questions, please. Show how the tea party views are dogmatic and extremist. Show how we are all controlled by a few billionaires. Tell us how you plan to get rid of us. Show us how tolerant you are to views that differ from yours.

Show us and tell us please.

AmericaFirst · 12-24-2012, 02:09 PM

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You can not confiscate guns in this country. What exactly makes him a conservative judge, just the fact that he was appointed by George W. Bush?

Bush was anything but a conservative. Not surprised one of his judges believes this garbage.

philnotfil · 12-24-2012, 03:12 PM

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Bush was anything but a conservative. Not surprised one of his judges believes this garbage.

Apologies for the caps.

BUSH-APPOINTED JUDGES MOST CONSERVATIVE ON RECORD, NEW UH STUDY FINDS

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Bush judicial appointees are significantly more conservative than even the very conservative voting record of jurists appointed by Presidents Ronald Reagan and Bush Sr. in the realm of civil rights and liberties, said Robert Carp, professor of political science at UH. When it comes to these decisions, the Bush team is a full 5 percentage points more conservative than even the trial judges appointed by Presidents Reagan and Bush Sr.

**chompalot** · 12-21-2012, 08:12 AM

That's the title of the op-ed from the conservative judge calling for confiscation of these weapons. It's not a farce.

**gatorman_07732** · 12-21-2012, 09:08 AM

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That's the title of the op-ed from the conservative judge calling for confiscation of these weapons. It's not a farce.

I hate to rattle your cage, because some numb nut writer calls the judge conservative doesn't make it so. There is something call the constitution which he obviously has issues with in calling for confiscation of firearms.

rivergator · 12-21-2012, 09:16 AM

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I hate to rattle your cage, because some numb nut writer calls the judge conservative doesn't make it so. There is something call the constitution which he obviously has issues with in calling for confiscation of firearms.

I think many people understand that the right to bear arms doesn't necessarily mean the right to bear any and all kinds of arms.

**gatorman_07732** · 12-21-2012, 09:18 AM

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I think many people understand that the right to bear arms doesn't necessarily mean the right to bear any and all kinds of arms.

Do you understand what confiscation means? Seriously, am I misunderstanding the premise of this thread?

ironhead1 · 12-21-2012, 09:22 AM

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Do you understand what confiscation means? Seriously, am I misunderstanding the premise of this thread?

Confiscation means the bloodiest days in American history with literally hundreds of thousands of freedom loving gun owning martyrs.

Who will be first in line to walk up to the doors of honest law abiding citizens and say" I'm here to take your guns"?????