Gun Control

[mocgator]

It's only fair to start a thread on what's sure to be wrong-minded screeching for Gun Control after this insanity in Connecticut. Here are some facts before the emotional left who never use common sense or facts to guide themselves start their caterwauling..

In major study of all multiple-shooting incidents in US, '77-'99, only 1 policy reduced deaths: concealed-carry laws. http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_Am...ings_study.htm


Mexico had something like 50,000 gun deaths and 100,000 weapons confiscated in the last 5 years. How many gun shops are in Mexico??? I'll let you look it up...

[rivergator]

John Lott's research has long since shown to be bogus. He includes "studies" that don't exist. Moc, you love to post things that agree with you, but you never seem to have a clue whether they're valid or not.

[mocgator]

Originally Posted by rivergator

John Lott's research has long since shown to be bogus. He includes "studies" that don't exist. Moc, you love to post things that agree with you, but you never seem to have a clue whether they're valid or not.

http://www.cato.org/publications/pol...-carry-handgun

http://www.moccw.org/ccwcrime.html

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by mocgator

http://www.cato.org/publications/pol...-carry-handgun

http://www.moccw.org/ccwcrime.html

The first one has nothing to do with concealed weapons stopping mass shootings. Do you even read the stuff you link to? Or do you just Google "concealed weapons" and post the first thing you find?

[novagator1]

Originally Posted by rivergator

John Lott's research has long since shown to be bogus. He includes "studies" that don't exist. Moc, you love to post things that agree with you, but you never seem to have a clue whether they're valid or not.

Prove it!!!

[KelticGator]

Isn't Mexico sort of synonomous with gun deaths from incredibly well armed and brutal drug gangs? I am not sure that countries statistics are going to be analogous with what happens in the US.

[mocgator]

Originally Posted by KelticGator

Isn't Mexico sort of synonomous with gun deaths from incredibly well armed and brutal drug gangs? I am not sure that countries statistics are going to be analogous with what happens in the US.

How many gun shops?

[wgbgator]

Originally Posted by mocgator

How many gun shops?

This is like asking how many drug shops are in the US. I'll give you a hint, there are two countries that border each other with the ability to easily fill the demand in both cases.

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by wgbgator

This is like asking how many drug shops are in the US. I'll give you a hint, there are two countries that border each other with the ability to easily fill the demand in both cases.

good point.

[mocgator]

Originally Posted by wgbgator

This is like asking how many drug shops are in the US. I'll give you a hint, there are two countries that border each other with the ability to easily fill the demand in both cases.

How many gun shops?

[KelticGator]

Originally Posted by mocgator

How many gun shops?

If I pick a number out of thin air will you then tell me how the social conditions in Mexico translate and have any bearing on how the US operates?

Also, is this in relation to where these mexican guns come from? So should I include all the US gun stores in that total since that's where most of their guns come from?

[Dreamliner]

These sorts of mass-shootings have a nasty habit of occurring in cities, states and countries which already have stringent gun-control laws.

[ArtVandelay]

Remember Bob Costas's comment about if guns weren't legal, they would both be alive? I didn't agree with that because he could have stabbed or found another way.

You can't argue that if these guys didn't have guns, then there would have been much less damage here and many lives would have been saved.

I'm not saying taking away all guns. I'm saying that whatever we have in place now isn't working and isn't good enough and there needs to be a compromise somewhere.

Very sad day for this country. I can't even fathom the damage that has been done to the community, families and friends.

[The_Graygator]

Originally Posted by ArtVandelay

Remember Bob Costas's comment about if guns weren't legal, they would both be alive? I didn't agree with that because he could have stabbed or found another way.

You can't argue that if these guys didn't have guns, then there would have been much less damage here and many lives would have been saved.

And yet, in cities like NY and Washington and Chicago that have strict gun ban laws, the criminal still manage to get weapons to kill people with.

There is no reasoning this. If this guy wanted to kill these children, he'd have found the guns illegally and still done it, gun bans or not.

This is about keeping guns out of the wrong peoples' hands, not out of the hands of decent, law-abiding people.

[fredsanford]

Originally Posted by The_Graygator

And yet, in cities like NY and Washington and Chicago that have strict gun ban laws, the criminal still manage to get weapons to kill people with.

There is no reasoning this. If this guy wanted to kill these children, he'd have found the guns illegally and still done it, gun bans or not.

This is about keeping guns out of the wrong peoples' hands, not out of the hands of decent, law-abiding people.

They're imported from the usual suspects in the south.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by fredsanford

They're imported from the usual suspects in the south.

And you say he was a member of the Tea Party too ?

[ArtVandelay]

Originally Posted by The_Graygator

And yet, in cities like NY and Washington and Chicago that have strict gun ban laws, the criminal still manage to get weapons to kill people with.

There is no reasoning this. If this guy wanted to kill these children, he'd have found the guns illegally and still done it, gun bans or not.

This is about keeping guns out of the wrong peoples' hands, not out of the hands of decent, law-abiding people.

You have no idea what the motive was. If he even wanted to kill all of the children.

It's about keeping guns out of people's hands. I'm sure these guys were once decent law-abiding people. They might even have been when they obtained the guns.

[95Gator]

Originally Posted by The_Graygator

And yet, in cities like NY and Washington and Chicago that have strict gun ban laws, the criminal still manage to get weapons to kill people with.

There is no reasoning this. If this guy wanted to kill these children, he'd have found the guns illegally and still done it, gun bans or not.

This is about keeping guns out of the wrong peoples' hands, not out of the hands of decent, law-abiding people.

How do you know this? The gun was registered to his mother apparently and obviously the guy was seriously mentally ill.

[DaveFla]

Originally Posted by ArtVandelay

Remember Bob Costas's comment about if guns weren't legal, they would both be alive? I didn't agree with that because he could have stabbed or found another way.

You can't argue that if these guys didn't have guns, then there would have been much less damage here and many lives would have been saved.

I'm not saying taking away all guns. I'm saying that whatever we have in place now isn't working and isn't good enough and there needs to be a compromise somewhere.

Very sad day for this country. I can't even fathom the damage that has been done to the community, families and friends.

Nonsense... One IED, produced from everyday products, could cause 10x the deaths we saw today...

[The_Graygator]

What's truly disgusting is the way the LMSM has already begun touting Obama's U.N. gan ban treaty while these innocent childrens' bodies aren;t even cold yet. For them to politicize this is atrocious.

The ABC reporter at the WH breifing who asked Carney how this shooting could possibly help Obama's gun ban treaty was stupefying. Nothing is sacred to the LMSM... absolutely nothing.

Again, just think if these teachers had been trained to wear and use concealed weapons they could have probably stopped this slaughter before it took so many lives.