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Originally Posted by LeafUF
Not that I think this thread is really the place to have this argument but what exactly does eating clean even mean? My sister claims that if she doesn't eat totally clean she instantly looks worse. And then gets mad at me for eating peanut butter in front of her. I also happen to eat wheat and sugar and fat regularly. But, I watch my intake and take an IIFYM approach to my meal planning and the results are looking good.
Its all about managing how you incorporate these things into your diet. If you plan appropriately there is a place for just about anything.
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I'm in 100% agreement with your (also Dream's) assertion that caloric deficit = weight loss. When I say eating clean, I simply mean that bad habits feed bad habits. Too much sugar makes me crave sugar. Too much alcohol makes me crave grease and sugar.
The term "eating clean" probably shouldn't be used as I have friends that take the term to a whole other level: no wheat, soy, gluten, etc.