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Biden's Troubles

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator1, May 7, 2024.

  1. ETGator1

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    President Trump wades in on Dictator Biden's decision to refuse arms to Israel:

    Trump Has Some Choice Words for Biden Over His Move to Stop Arms Shipments to Israel (townhall.com)

    I wish President Trump would use Dictator Biden instead of Crooked Joe Biden. Think I will shoot him off an email. ;)

    "Crooked Joe Biden, whether he knows it or not, just said he will withhold weapons from Israel as they fight to eradicate Hamas Terrorists in Gaza. Hamas murdered thousands of innocent civilians, including babies, and are still holding Americans hostage, if the hostages are still alive," Trump said on Truth Social. "Yet Crooked Joe is taking the side of these terrorists, just like he has sided with the Radical Mobs taking over our college campuses, because his donors are funding them. Biden is weak, corrupt, and leading the world straight into World War III."
     
  2. rivergator

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    your evidence of that is ....?
     
  3. ETGator1

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    1. I asked first. 2. What is acceptable proof to you? 3. Can you make the Trump's Troubles thread open for me after 3 years.
     
  4. rivergator

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    You asked what? You said the civilians chose to stay close to Hamas.
    What do you have?
    Don’t have the power to do that, but I’ll reach out to the poster.
     
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  5. ETGator1

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    1. question of your support of ww2 bombings. 2. will you accept proof from media not aligned with democratic party?
     
  6. AzCatFan

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    The nukes dropped in Japan were necessary evils. The bomb was a new weapon, and had we not used them, someone else would have dropped one or two somewhere. Notice, after the dropping of two in combat, no other country has dropped a nuke in combat. And after WWII, the world did come together and create some rules of warfare where countries are supposed to limit civilian casualties. Does this happen if we don't drop the nukes?

    Dealing with Hamas is different. First, the tech Israel is using isn't new. Second, Hamas is a terrorist organization, and not a country. Hamas has used civilian shields for years. Using nukes or larger bombs that would result in significant civilian causalities is something to be avoided.

    Now specifically, in this case, Israel told civilians to move South to avoid the fighting. As a result, there are about 1 million Palestinians refugees in Rafah, which is the S. part of the territory. The argument is, if Israel now goes into Rafah with these high yield weapons, were they not herding the Palestinian population to an area where they can kill as many, civilians and Hamas, at one time?

    This is a no win scenario for Israel. Of course Hamas is hiding with the civilians in Rafah. Again, human shields are standard operating procedure. But what does Israel gain if it ends up killing tens of thousand more Palestinian civilians? And do we, as the US, want to be responsible for giving Israel the ability to do said killing?
     
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    First you have to understand that the lives of anyone in that region are irrelevant to MAGAts except for if they help Trump's electoral chances or not. Because they are deplorable.
     
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  8. ETGator1

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    Incorrect, this is a must win for Israel. Civilians have been warned to leave Rafah. This war brought on by Hamas. Four divisions will be destroyed with or without the US. This action is a necessary evil. War is hell. Noticeable that you didn't comment on the Dresdin firebombings. Impeach Dictator Biden Now!
     
  9. AzCatFan

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    Rafah was where Israel originally asked civilians to go. Now they ask them to go North where there's still fighting?

    After WWII, the world created rules of war. This was after the fire bombing of Dresden, the nukes dropped on Japan, and the Holocaust. Innocent civilians are not supposed to be targets and civilian casualties limited. Think Israel has done a good job so far?

    I don't. And I'm Jewish with family that live in Israel.

    There is no winning through force. The more civilians the Israelis kill, the more future Hamas there will be when kids who survive grow up. Want actual peace? Both sides will truly, really want to stop fighting. Right now, both sides hate each other too much.
     
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  10. gatordavisl

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    Ya got blocked. Probably for good reason. Suck it up.
     
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  11. rivergator

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    We got 'quid pro quo' (you know, just like Trump, right?), we got Hunter Biden ...

    House GOP drafting Biden impeachment articles over Israel aid cutoff threat
     
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  13. gatorjo

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    OP seems to have taken a break. I'll try to keep things going for him;

    Biden = dictator! It's NOT FAIR!
     
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  15. ETGator1

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    when the war is over, there will only be one side, no 2 state solution, ever. disagee that israel hasn't done enough. they have called civilians to tell them to get out of targeted buildings.
     
  16. AzCatFan

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    Then there will never be peace. It's wash, rinse, repeat until one side is successful in their quest for genocide...or both sides are.
     
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  17. ETGator1

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    You look so silly throwing around Israel as committing genocide. The opposite is true. Israel does what it can to reduce civilian casualties, but this is war and war is hell. Remember, it was Hamas who brought this upon themselves sneak attacking Israel and murdering innocence: babies, children, women, and men non-combatants in the most gruesome of barbaric ways.

    Hamas and anyone imbedding with Hamas are fair targets of war. Rafah will face being a major warzone as 40,000 Hamas fighters bent on destroying Israel, river to the sea, will be wiped out. Genocide? No way in hell! They are enemy combatants. There will be no more Hamas for Iran to be supporting. Israel will be in charge of Gaza even if they allow local leaders for the Palestinian people. There will never again be consideration for a two-state solution by Israel.
     
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    So in other words, Biden is not doing this because of politics and to get votes. He's doing this because he believes it's the right thing to prevent civilian casualties even though it may cost him votes.
     
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    Netanyahu responds to Biden after aid is cutoff. Israel is going to defeat Hamas regardless of what Dictator Biden thinks:

    Netanyahu Delivers Message As Biden Blocks Aid (townhall.com)

    "If we have to stand alone, we will stand alone," Netanyahu declared. "I already said that if we have to - we will fight tooth and nail," he pledged.

    "We have much more than nails," continued Netanyahu. "And with the same greatness, with God's help, together we will win."