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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. citygator

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    Russia is now trying to recruit women from prison and from civilian life to restock as cannon fodder.

    Family Values or Fighting Valor? Russia Grapples With Women’s Wartime Role.

    The military’s stepped-up appeal to women includes efforts to recruit female inmates in prisons, replicating on a much smaller scale a strategy that has swelled its ranks with male convicts.

    Recruiters in military uniforms toured Russian jails for women in the fall of 2023, offering inmates a pardon and $2,000 a month — 10 times the national minimum wage — in return for serving in frontline roles for a year, according to six current and former inmates of three prisons in different regions of Russia.

    Dozens of inmates just from those prisons have signed military contracts or applied to enlist, the women said, a sampling that — along with local media reports about recruitment in other regions — suggests a broader effort to enlist female convicts.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    Incandescent rage against Russians.

    But will it turn the tide ?
     
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    Psychotic rage.
     
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    That's always a sign things are going well.
     
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  9. OklahomaGator

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    If Russia is so good, why haven't they gotten any further in 2+ years?
     
  10. duggers_dad

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    It’s almost like you refuse to read posts (with links) that serve to answer the question.
     
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  12. uftaipan

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    Most of us would love that. Truly. But I’m afraid that’s not the world we live in. In reality, this is an anarchic world: There is no authority above the state. The only realistic way to hold someone accountable for war crimes to defeat their state in the war. Are you yet willing to do what it takes to defeat Russia in this war? Because material aid alone simply won’t do it. We need to get more involved.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    Reposting a comment from a Brit who seems to understand attrition strategy …

    The point of an attrition strategy is to win the war, surely. The Russian army is not attriting the Ukrainian civilian population by for example besieging population centers, it is attriting the Ukrainian military force by reducing them along a long, almost entirely remote line of contact. The Ukrainian forces have agency here, they have room to maneuver to more defensive positions or to take other strategies to reduce attrition such as, for example, a conditional surrender. I hear that Ukraine’s opportunity for defensive maneuver may have been lost now that the spring mud is hardening. That is Ukraine’s dilemma to solve, militarily or politically.

    Attrition induces exhaustion. Exhaustion is the gradual hollowing out of a belligerent’s willingness to fight. I see that Russia’s pace of war is crafted to exhaust Ukrainian state partisanship amongst the population in Kiev’s territory and, as important, amongst the NATO belligerents.

    Exhaustion is visible even in online commentary in Western press and in discussion forums like this one.
     
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    It is interesting to note that even early in the conflict, before 40+ nations vowed eternal fealty to Ukraine - and before it was apparent that Ukrainians would fight seemingly to the last man - there were reports that Russia was budgeted for a years-long war.
     
  15. NavyGator93

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    This thread reads so much more coherently when you skip over the Pravda Pumpers.
     
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    You just have to block them once you realize they’re filibustering and saturating what could be an interesting and productive discussion with propaganda. I’ve got no problem with disagreement on the U.S. position. I personally disagree with the U.S. position in that we have not done enough fast enough and that we’re consistently being dragged by the nose by our allies whom we should be leading. What I don’t have time for are those pushing the Russian position. Russia is only still in this fight (marginally) at our forbearance. And we need to start progressively tapering off that forbearance.
     
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  17. NavyGator93

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    The pravda guys have taken to putting pro russian comments on other random threads. Hilarious and pathetic.
     
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  18. ajoseph

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    It’s not hilarious at all.
     
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  19. uftaipan

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    You’re half right, old friend.
     
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  20. citygator

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    What’s funny is “they” post criticism about the US from a pathetic failed nation that can’t take any criticism itself without throwing critics out the window. Such weakness.

    And there is no “they”. Duggers started the Vegas Fox username in Feb to add a second voice to his own farms opinion.
     
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