Kirby Smart New Contract

It should all be performance based, buyouts too. Like in the real world. Why should a player get NIL money, if he hasn't produced anything on the field? How does a player have any Name, Image and Likeness, if he can't help the team and never has? They should only get a percentage of the NIL offer based on how much they play.

 

The money legally has nothing to with how they play. Pay them or don’t, but there’s ten other guys lined up to pay them if you don’t.

 

Under the current system you are correct, but why not have a system that makes sense and keeps this thing from going out of control?

 

You’re not going to be able to limit the third party NIL money. The courts have already made that clear.

 

Is it me or does NIL seems like a farce? How is a high school football player worth millions in Name Image and likeness? If he was, he would already be getting it whether he singed with a school or not.

 

. Because people are willing to give them the money. As long as anyone is willing to pay, everyone will.

 

I don't think that's what folks don't like. I think people are jealous of the young athletes getting money. If it's about the rich schools paying players to have successful programs, then they should have been similarly outraged when it was under the table. They are not worried about the actual practice of paying players, they are bothered by the amount.

 

Man respectfully, you are telling a lot of people here "what they really mean" despite what many if not most here are saying. I know how I feel and I have no reasons to be anything but honest. No other agenda.

I'll keep it about myself although several people have shared the sentiment. I have NO problem with a kid making money off his name value. That's a pretty limited value for 99% of recruits. Percy Harvin had no name value as a recruit other than to football coaches and a small group of football nerd fans like ourselves. Even then it was based on potential. By his sophomore year he could have been making a killing on jersey sales and other merch because we saw the product. Same with Tebow. Of course they should have been able to make money off their name, image and likeness. As much as they commanded. But the NCAA always knew you would just end up with the old give a football player a job at a car dealership that paid them inordinate amounts of money while they never showed up for work only worse now.

Also, there are plenty of fans disgusted by coaches salaries and I'd guess almost everyone is with their buyouts. There isn't really a double standard from the people that don't make the decisions. Fans dont like it.

I will say that fans are a part of the problem in that they keep shoveling out their hard earned money for higher and higher ticket, concession and merchandise prices.

I'm not sure why the need to oversimplify the issues and claim people don't want kids to make money. I will add that there is a sentiment that does resent the idea that the kids got "nothing" which disregarded value of scholarships, education, training, facilities, coaching, exposure, branding, networking, etc etc. Should some get more based on their NIL? Of course. But thst isn't what is happening. At least at the recruiting level. And there is a big difference in how the NFL pays a contract and the anarchy that is the portal, third party money and recruiting at the moment.

 

Individually, only a star college college athlete or a professional athlete has any real NIL value, but when I look holistically, Uf, as a program has no NIL value without players. So I can see how it would fall under NIL.

 

So what you are telling me is that I’m wrong about people’s anger being about the amount the players receive?

Ok, then for an exercise let’s say that it cost $100 in NIL to get a five star prospect to sign. Would people still be upset about NIL? I think not.

I’m not telling people why they are upset, I’m just keeping it real about what I think.

 

Its not you.

 

There is truth to what you saying, but the problem is that there is no real rules and boundaries to this system and fans are worried and upset that these large amounts of money are going to hurt or is hurting college football, which is very important to them.

 

What you think is fine. I don't question your opinion because it's yours. But when others express theirs, telling them what is "really bothering them" is different.

Of course amounts are a factor. They aren't THE factor because again, I'd challenge anyone to argue against Percy Harvin or Tim Tebow getting million dollar deals once their impact on the field was felt and their name value took off. That's not what is tripping people out about NIL. It's the runaway boosters for win at all cost programs that are driving the money combined with the lack of any structure for the moment. Among other things like asking fans to foot the bills for kids that haven't proven anything yet.

 

Oh, I agree about the negative consequences, for sure. You have to take my statement as a whole, though. If you divide it, it seems like I’m only saying it’s the amount. I was really saying that their us hypocrisy in the outrage over athletes’ money and much less when evaluating coaches getting millions and huge buyouts. I’d like to see equal disgust.

 

I’m not really doing that, though. I’m just giving my opinion. I’m not telling any individual what they feel.

 

You haven't seen disgust here about the buyouts for Champ, Mac, Mullen and even Charlie Weiss from Notre Dame?

 

That's too much money for any coach but I don't mind him being at the top. He's earned it.

 

I think most are bothered more by the sham that NIL is. When NOBODY has ever heard of these players, they have no intrinsic Name,Image, or Likeness value. They are being paid to play for State U based on their talent and performance at lower levels. It is a farce that the NCAA invented to try to even the playing field somewhat after completely abandoning its authority to investigate and punish colleges and universities that egregiously paid athletes under the table.

 

The ncaa didn’t want this. They liked it the old way. They fought tooth and nail and they lost. The ncaa doesn’t really have any rules governing this stuff and has essentially given up even trying to govern it. Every time they’ve really tried to do something to attempt to govern it, it’s been shot down by the courts. The only real rules right now were written by legislators, not the schools.

I don’t think the NCAA invented any of this in the name of evening the field. This is just what they got by sitting on their hands.

 

I don't think people are jealous of the players getting money. If anyone should be jealous it would be the freshman in the locker next to you that is getting a big pay day and you see yourself as being more talented than he is.

I want the kids to get as much money as they can. And the outrage comes down to this - the outrage that happened when it was under the table is the same as it is now that it's over the table. I want MY team to be the one that is buying all the good 5 star players so we can win a natty and rub it in our rivals faces.
The teams that had no problem paying under the table against the rules are the same ones that pay a lot for players now that it's out in the open.
If I was in a position to hand out tons of cash, you better believe the Gators would have the best players and the top 10 draft picks in the NFL would all come from UF.