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The Great Replacement

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by flgator2, Apr 30, 2024.

  1. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    If that's what they want, its the dumbest plan ever given how recent immigrants tend to vote, especially 2nd generation lol.
     
  2. mdgator05

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    Except it doesn't shut down the argument. Look at this thread. Started by the same theory believed by just about every avowed racist these days. Multiple people have already pointed out that it is racist. However, we have a lot of people trying to sort of agree with it but not really be nailed down as agreeing to it.
     
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  3. g8trjax

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    LOL yeah, minorities are pub locks...whatchu smoking?
     
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  4. wgbgator

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    Republicans couldn't win elections without minority votes, and Hispanic voters are probably their best demographic among minorities, not to mention fairly conservative in outlook. They just dont respond well to obvious racism, which pushes them to another camp. Even an idiot like George W. Bush understood this and pushed immigration reform lol. California went blue mainly because the state Republicans decided to go full racist on immigrants.
     
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  5. AzCatFan

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    The planet's resources are limited. If a person is living in C. America or N. America, is that going to change the amount of resource he/she takes up? And if a person is living in abject squalor in C. America, wants to make an honest living, but cannot due to gang violence and other dangerous conditions, but there is a job he/she is willing to do here in the US that would otherwise go unfilled, why shouldn't we let this person in?

    As for terrorists, how many 9/11 terrorists entered the US illegally from Mexico? Zero. In fact, there hasn't been a single successful terrorism attack from a person who has entered illegally from Mexico. And the total number of people arrested on terrorism charges from illegal entry from Mexico is now at three; and all three entered as young kids and were later arrested as adults.

    Does that mean we should allow people in unvetted? No. But had we passed the 2007 bipartisan or 2013 bipartisan Gang of 8 law that expanded our guest worker program and allowed for more vetting of immigrants, we'd have a system that would better allow supply of labor to meet demand. And while no system is perfect, we'd likely catch more of the drug dealers and gang bangers, et. al. while addressing our labor supply shortage that is a major cause of inflation. What's the downside? If the OP answered, it would be because these immigrants aren't white! What's your answer?
     
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  6. g8trjax

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    Fact remains none of these people flooding into the country will ever vote for the pubs so all it really boils down to is future voters.
     
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  7. wgbgator

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    Well they wont vote for anyone since they cant lol. But if they stay, each succeeding generation is more and more likely too, which makes the great replacement ridiculous as anything other than racist fear mongering. I've made this comment before, but places like Texas and Florida are full of guys named like "Colin Ramirez" (or George Zimmerman?) who drive big trucks, think of themselves as white, buy guns and argue the border should be locked down and shit is too woke.
     
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  8. 92gator

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    My answer is fentanyl, MS 13, hundreds of military aged single male chicoms arriving in bunches (no families...), sex traffickers sex trafficking, drugs, drug dealers moving drugs, countless single military aged men from sundry terror list banned middle eastern countries...

    You know...all the shit I mentioned in my post, which you conveniently ignored.

    NB: It hasn't happened

    =/=

    It won't happen.

    House money has it as a matter of time, not if.

    Terrorists gonna terrorist.
     
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  9. AzCatFan

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    If the chicoms want to implant spies, think they would risk them entering from Mexico, which carries a high risk of getting caught or dying in the process? Or, would they find safe and legal ways for them to enter the country?

    Same when it comes to terrorists. There were 22 9/11 terrorists. At worst, 33% of people attempting to cross from Mexico get caught by BP. About 5% die. Think 9/11 would have been successful if 7 of the terrorists were caught and 1 died during the trip?

    Fentanyl and other drugs aren't being muled through the desert. 90% of all drugs enter legal entry ports as contraband. We need to do better at finding the drugs at the border in legal entry ports if we want to make a dent.

    It goes back to the OP's false belief that immigrants are bringing crime with them. It just isn't rational, and while a small percentage of people suffer from mental illness that cause them to be irrational, most people are rational actors. If you live in squalor where crime is rampant, and it forces you to leave your home and walk hundreds, if not thousands of miles to get to the US to eek out a living, are you really going to commit crimes once you get here? No. If you wanted to live a life of crime, why not stay home? Why risk the trip? It's why all studies show immigrant populations commit less crime than citizen populations.

    Again, it's not to say we should have completely open borders. We can do better. But it's not as bad as many make it out to be, and unlikely to ever become that bad. What terrorist organization is going to train for months only to take a huge risk by entering the country illegally through Mexico, instead of ensuring safe passage through legal means into the country?
     
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  10. Gatorrick22

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    That IS NOT the point, the point is that We The People of The United States of America are a sovereign country... We are not a refugee camp for the displaced criminals, pedophiles, rapists and drug dealers like the Leftist want us to become...
     
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  11. rivergator

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    Premature? I'm talking about the past, not the future. The percentage of Americans who consider themselves Christian have been falling for decades.
    And atheists want to take down the US and Western Civilization? Why make up stuff like that?
     
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  12. sierragator

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    I'm sure there were some who had been here longer who threw shade at your ancestors when they showed up too.
     
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  13. vegasfox

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    I enjoy your posts brother. But let me ask you a question: Can you give me a single example of a liberal condemning someone on the political left?
     
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  14. BLING

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    Wait, are we still talking about immigrants here or Republican politicians?
     
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  15. avogator

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    Just Think. If you see people and not skin or racial characteristics you ask SO WHAT. I have a son married to an Asian American, another son married to an African American and my daughter's child has a father from the Dominican Republic. My third son married a blonde haired blue eyed gal. Guess what my 9 grandchildren are beautiful, wonderful American kids who all love the gators.
     
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  16. ncargat1

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    Most native Americans, who had their sovereign nations stolen by white Europeans would disagree with this.

    One of these times when you are goose-stepping to a Neo-Nazi/Trump rally you should really stop by a library and read little bit about the history of this "sovereign nation".
     
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  17. VAg8r1

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    That's probably true primarily because demonization of immigrants has become one of the core values of the Republican Party of Donald Trump. Immigrants would actually be more likely to vote Republican than Democrat were it not for the MAGA demonization considering that they tend to be socially conservative, are much more likely to be entrepreneurs than native born Americans and tend to have more of work ethic than most native born Americans.
    Study: Immigrants in the U.S. are more likely to start firms, create jobs
    Immigrants Have an ‘Enormous Work Ethic,’ Says Acclaimed Documentarian and Entrepreneur
    Report Shows Foreign-Born Citizens Are More Socially Conservative Than Their Native-Born Counterparts and Are Less Likely to Identify with Either Political Party
     
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  18. G8tas

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    Why does the right always act like the border is an issue? Every time we have a bipartisan bill the right shoot is down. The same thing happened when Obama was in office.They then turn around and blame the border issue on the left
     
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  19. citygator

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    Racist theory.

     
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  20. mrhansduck

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    "White Europeans are being replaced in their own countries at an ever accelerating rate and it will mean the end of our civilization if we don’t turn things around."

    The Netherlands has a high population density, and I could see valid concerns there about further growth from migration. I even understand concerns about time needed for assimilation. Not all concerns about migration are invalid. Having said that, the lady from the OP seems worried about White people as a race and to be pushing the "White people are under attack" trope that we hear from some White conservatives here and around the world.

    I don't consider being generically "White" to be a culture or countries (at least not the United States) to be "White countries." In any event, I am personally very happy that I don't live in an ethnostate.
     
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