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Taylor Spierto

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by ufstrong57, Apr 15, 2024.

  1. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

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    It happens once or twice a decade. Players are missed by every coach in the nation. Late draft picks become hall of fame guys in the nfl. It happens.
     
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  2. foot

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    The only way Spierto see the field is because he worked his ass off and earned it, and is playing better than the other guys on the bench. That is the only healthy environment you can have concerning a team sport. If he is taking away opportunities from ranked players, who cares! Ranked players are owed nothing and need to earn it like everybody else.
     
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  3. northgagator

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    It is a safe bet to say that all Div 1 players to get a snap on the field, have earned.
     
  4. unclerob

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    DJ Lagway seems to have a connection with him. Having a QB/receiver combination that is in synch can be a powerful thing. Might be just spring game glory or it could be something greater. I'm hoping for the later.
     
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  5. thegatorvault

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    The problem with your argument is that you are dealing in absolutes. Somehow if this walk-on leaps above scholarship athletes for playing time, it means that the position group sucks.

    When people give you examples of walk-ons excelling and becoming difference makers, you make a straw man argument that we all think Spierto is the second coming of Doering. Sorry, but giving you examples of where your argument doesn’t hold true has zero to do with Spierto. Hoping a walk-on ends up being a difference maker does not mean a person necessarily believes he will be. Think ‘rooting for the underdog’ here.

    I would add that player development is not a linear path. They can develop differently depending on themselves as individuals and their surrounding influences. For whatever reason (coaching, maturity, position change, work ethic, physical development, etc) things align and some players just excel later in their athletic careers, and get that much better. It doesn’t even necessarily mean they are overall a better player at the position but maybe they grade off the charts in certain categories that results in meaningful and worthy playing time.

    The reality is historically speaking, he probably won’t do much. And you could be right, if he does get meaningful snaps it may very well mean our receiver room is trash (we know it’s not where we want it to be). That isn’t an absolute though, and your belief might very well be wrong…..for all the right reasons.
     
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  6. username

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    so you’ve admit that literally just because his is a walk on, he could be great because that has happened in the past. And it has nothing to do with Spiertos play. Because his play is 2 catches in a scrimmage as a senior.
    I am well aware walk ons can be good. I am asking in what freaking planet does 2 wide open catches in a spring game justify thinking he should get PT over all of our other WR? For Christ sakes he is a senior and there is a 5 page thread about his 2 catches in a scrimmage

    Again, are you trying to compare a senior that made 2 catches in a spring game to Louis Oliver and Doering????? I refuse to believe that a human being cannot comprehend that if you think Spierto should get PT over others in our WR room because of his TWO CATCHES IN A SPRING GAME, then that is a bad sign for the rest of the room. I’m talking in circles because all anybody can say is “well, walking can be good - look at the past”. Wonderful. What does that have to do with spierto to and his two catches??? Nothing.

    I am willing to bet I am not wrong - he is a senior. Does anybody expect Frazier to all the sudden bust out this year as a senior after showing nothing his first few years? Cmon guy
     
  7. username

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    So now we are using Mullen’s bad judgement as a reason Napier should play a walk on over his personally crafted WR room lol. All because of two catches in a spring game. Wild times
     
  8. foot

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    He actually had 3 catches and a TD. It's something to notice.
     
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  9. Wanne15

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    Not at all, that’s some terrible logic.
     
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  10. thegatorvault

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    There is zero logic in much he has posted on this thread. Dude can’t see the forest through the trees.

    He somehow thinks belief and hope are synonyms, takes examples to push false equivalencies, and is ultimately stuck in an argument hole with no desire to escape. Tiring weirdness. You can’t have a rational discussion with people like that, unfortunately.
     
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  11. username

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    Glad we are on the same page.
     
  12. username

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    Hilarious way to frame me saying if our walk on senior is better than our WR room we have problems. Your framing here clearly shows your projection as you state my “tiring weirdness and argument hole with no desire to escape”.

    Virtually everything you just said about me is an obvious projection of the RESPONSES to me, but I’m sure you already know that
     
  13. lagorcegator

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    Welcome to comedy central!!!!
     
  14. Wanne15

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    We arent
     
  15. thegatorvault

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    "I know you are but what am I?" Is this the crux of your argument now? You are framing yourself, no one here needs to do it for you. Let me try to simplify it for you.....

    Given the following truths:
    1. Some walk-ons are contributors
    2. Most walk-ons are not contributors
    3. Spierto is a walk-on

    Question - Will Spierto be a contributor during the 2024/2025 season?
    A) Yes
    B) No
    C) Undetermined

    At this point in time, the correct answer is C. Everyone knows this. Many HOPE (not believe) it turns out to be A. You believe its B and if it turns out to be A, then our receiver room is trash. This is where you are dealing in absolutes.

    The historical walk-ons that people brought up were just to prove 1 - walk-ons we all know. Somehow you twisted this to mean people believe Spierto = Doering. False equivalency as a strawman argument but ultimately a hollow deflection.

    Guess we should all be glad no one started a Kahleil Jackson thread last season.:rolleyes: