American fertility plummets to all time low

Things that never happened for $800 please, Alex.

 

And yet, the country that Americans have been freaking out about overtaking us is one of two very high population countries in the world. Not the other over 200 countries in the world.

 

I'm betting you said something more than that, if that happened. Poor people have higher birth rates, regardless of religion.

 

Richard Dawkins Laments The Decline Of Christianity In England, Calls Himself "Culturally Christian"

 

I doubt you're going to find different numbers. We're actually seeing greater numbers of families coming now than we did in the past. Based on demographics, one would expect less crime. Our borders were actually less "controlled" during the 90s and early 2000s. But the demographics back then were heavier on young men coming for work.

As for budgetary impacts, not so sure it'll be all that significant either. Immigrants are not eligible for a lot of our social safety nets. So when we get tax revenue from them, we're paying our less on the other side of things. Their children get certain benefits (such as public schooling), but I'm skeptical when you calculate the economic impacts, that it's a net negative.

 

Sounds like a ponzi scheme…
I know that’s how Social “Security” is funded.

If workers are replaced by automation and AI is it necessarily true the economy will contract?

 

Much like when Trump was gonna start WW3?

 

Well American does use much more energy per capita and consume more goods than pretty much everybody. Part of the reason some don’t like us.

 

Are you saying that there isn’t some limit to what the planet can support?

 

I think that as you get older, you tend to react to the constant state of change in society with more and more distress, if not horror. I don't think younger people see that much uncertainty; they may see opportunity. The increase in the cost of college education, and the inability to control federal spending (and inflation) are probably two things that would worry someone just starting out in life.

 

The Population Bomb was published in 1968. It predicted a massive global famine because the world wouldn't be able to produce enough food as the world was near its limits for production.

The world population that year was about 3.5 billion. In the 60s, the world's average calorie intake per day was about 2,350. Today, the world population is about 8.1 billion and the world's average calorie intake per day is about 2,860. Therefore, as a species, we now consume about 280% as much food as we did then. And yet, no global famines.

Heck, we have had a major war in a food producing region immediately following a global pandemic during global climactic changes killing or limiting other food producing regions. And still this global famine didn't happen. No, there is not a set carrying capacity of the Earth. Technological change causes the notion of such a thing to be ridiculous.

 

Huh? When was that? Why are you winking at me?

Trump's not stupid, but he's clearly a narcissistic sociopath who shouldn't be anywhere near the Whitehouse, not because of a war he'd start, but because of the revenge he'd exact from those who have wronged him.

 

Go back to 2017 and look for some headlines.

 

Well, I think there *is* some “carrying capacity” or sustainable level or whatever you want to call it. I think it’s more that technology, logistics, and scientific advancement in agriculture has pushed it out.

Obviously any theory declaring “ok, this is it, this is the max” is going to look foolish in hindsight with the population being 2x the supposed max. That means their limit was wrong. It doesn’t mean it’s infinite.

 

Infinite? No. But endogenous. The more people there are, the higher the capacity becomes due to increased innovation levels and the ability to provide additional labor.

 

Red States doing their bit …

 

I don't play hide and seek.

 

Why are you so worried about how I might vote? Methinks you generalize too much and worry about the wrong things. Oh, and not every statement/action/thought/report is about race. Take off your racially polarized glasses.

 

Rational thoughts. Haven’t seen (or looked for) data to support or refute. I do wonder what percentage of immigrant workers work for cash without paying taxes, though. Might be significant, might not.