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Number of homicides plummets in major U.S. cities

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8tas, Apr 21, 2024.

  1. enviroGator

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    It has been shown over and over again, that violent crime is related to the state of the economy.

    Since the economy is rocking and rolling, it should be no surprise that violent crime has gone down too.
     
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  2. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Inflation makes everyone super happy!
    We need more Biden inflation…it will save lives!
     
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  3. PITBOSS

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  4. tampagtr

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    My daughter (who lives in LA) and I have an ongoing inside joke about the fact that so many conservatives steeped in Fox narratives think all big cities are barely survivable urban hellholes. When we were driving around LA a few weeks ago, I kept jokingly asking where all the fires and street gangs blocking major intersections were.

    I sent her this tweet when I saw it and made the same joke



    She had a funny response. She said that conservatives are probably watching Fallout and thinking it is an LA documentary
     
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  5. philnotfil

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    Why We Believe the Myth of High Crime Rates | Scientific American

    Americans are convinced that they are living in a world ravaged by crime. In major cities, we fear riding public transportation or going out after dark. We buy weapons for self-defense and skip our nightly jogs. Next to the weather, the explosion of crime is a favorite topic of conversation. The overwhelming consensus is that crime is only getting worse. According to a Gallup poll, in late 2022, 78 percent of Americans contended that there was more crime than there used to be.

    These perceptions would make sense if they were accurate, but they aren’t. Crime, in fact, is down in the U.S., rivaling low levels that haven’t been seen since the 1960s. According to FBI data, violent crime rates dropped by 8 percent and property crime dropped by about 6 percent by the third quarter of last year, compared with the same period in 2022. Still, the reality of these optimistic statistics doesn’t quell people’s fears.

    New York City is a prime example. Crime was down by 6 percent in July 2023 from a year earlier. Specifically, murder was down by 11 percent, rape was down by 11 percent, and robbery was down by 6 percent. Yet at the time that these statistics were released in 2023, a poll of New Yorkers’ feelings around crime painted a grim picture of a city riddled with violence. The poll found that 61 percent of New Yorkers were worried about being the target of crime and that 36 percent fretted about the safety of public places. It is true that crime increased during the pandemic, and revising the way we view public safety after such a spike in crime statistics has ended happens at a slow pace. The pandemic is a case in point. The figures on major crime perceptions have remained inflated for years.

    The reasons for such misperceptions are manifold. Crime tends to concentrate in certain places, mostly within poorer neighborhoods in cities such as Baltimore, New Orleans, Detroit, Birmingham, Ala., and Memphis, Tenn. This means that most of us will never experience it. Only 2 percent of people are ever affected by violent crime, and 15 percent are affected by any type of misconduct. Perceptions matter because in most cases, they are the sole basis for the fears that fuel the idea that crime is rampant. That can affect people in different ways. The older you are, for example, the more likely you are to fear crime even though you’re half as likely to ever experience it, compared with other age groups.
     
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  6. citygator

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    Crime is near all time lows in America. Even in the Trump Flu era with the upswing of violence it hovered just off century lows. The shock jocks at Fox are responsible for more misinformation than the Russians. This website is a daily reminder of that.
     
  7. NavyGator93

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    People believing they are always a half second away from getting shot plays into why so many people feel the need to carry weapons at all times. While I am not opposed to a trained, CCW person carrying, I always found it odd they would worry about an event that most likely wasn't going to happen, but they ignore the 50% chance they would have a cardiac event in the next couple of years.

    First rule of Zombieland.
     
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  8. gatorchamps960608

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    Look, who are you going to believe, actual facts and statistics or Fox News? According to them, big cities are essentially like Manhattan in the Escape from NY movie.
     
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  9. wgbgator

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    Again I will posit that visible homelessness is probably at an all time high, and people conflate that with rampant crime. I guess the Supreme Court is at work making homelessness illegal, so maybe problem solved. ;)
     
  10. tampagtr

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    That's the problem with those homeless people. They think they can get away with it. Once it gets outlawed, they will stop being homeless.
     
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  11. bigDgator

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    Does anyone here believe that the Democrats are tougher on crime and criminals than Republicans? I am to the point where I don't care about crime in the large cities, because that is usually Democrat on Democrat crime, which in my opinion, they voted for it, so they deserve it.
     
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  12. NavyGator93

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    Interesting that one of the highest crime rate states is Alaska, which has no big cities and I would guess not that many democrats.
    If the Reps were tough on crime, they wouldn't be supporting Trump and his merry band of insurrectionists.
     
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  13. G8tas

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    Absolutely. Just look at what's going on in the NYC courtroom this week. One group believes in law and order and the other group wants to turn a blind eye
     
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    Liberals made gun murders skyrocket after George Floyd's death. The , "racial reckoning" got cops to back off from enforcing the law and the predictable happened. Now they're taking credit because gun murders are falling.
     
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  15. jhenderson251

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    Freakonomics pretty thoroughly debunked this theory decades ago.
     
  16. wgbgator

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  17. bigDgator

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    Are the prosecutors banging each other in NY like they are in ATL, or just on the take? I'm sure they are, only everyone in NY is too corrupt to turn them in.
     
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  18. G8tas

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    Sorry I don't follow soap operas, but back to the topic. Do you believe in law and order or not?
     
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    But the Dems say everything is just fine in our country. They laugh when you talk about food prices... and gas... and inflation... and 30 year mortgage rates... everything that the average American (their base voter) is finding harder to afford.
     
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  20. bigDgator

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    You realize this thread is about major US cities, right? Probably not.
     
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