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If Schools Have "Free" Lunch, Should Boys Get Bigger Portions?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by neutrino_boi, Apr 20, 2024.

  1. neutrino_boi

    neutrino_boi Senior

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    I'm active in a few forums that lean further left than this -- I post in Diamond Gators, usually just read over here. The question was raised in one of them and I was curious how it'd go over here.
     
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  2. channingcrowderhungry

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    That's why my solution was to offer free tampons to men as well. Seems like a very cheap solution
     
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  3. neutrino_boi

    neutrino_boi Senior

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    It's that girls need tampons (which are provided "free" at school in the first-post hypothetical) and boys need another 500 calories. So, if schools provide both tampons and lunch, should boys not get 150-200 (1/3 of 500) extra calories -- a bigger portion -- at lunch?
     
  4. WarDamnGator

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    Apparently, this is an ongoing right-wing concern, making the news this past year ... providing tampons to female students is "woke" and "liberal"...

    Idaho Republicans block proposal to provide free tampons in schools | Fox 59

    Republicans in the Idaho House blocked a bill that would provide free menstrual products to public school students, calling it “liberal” and “woke.”

    The bill would have funded free menstrual product dispensers for sixth through 12th grade students in girls’ bathrooms at a cost of about $300,000 per year, or $3.50 per student, after a one-time installation cost of about $435,000.

    “It’s not a lot of money in the state’s budget,” bill sponsor state Rep. Rod Furniss (R) said in committee Thursday. “Today is a step to preserve womanhood, to give it a chance to start right, to not be embarrassed or feel alienated or ashamed, or to feel like they need to stay home from school due to period poverty.”
     
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  5. WarDamnGator

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    But what if boys taking bigger dumps and need more toilet paper, has that been studied?

    Look, I found the stats ... I think this evens things out for this important issue facing America ...

    Toilet Paper Usage Statistics. The average person uses 85 rolls of toilet paper per year (based on regular rolls of 150 sheets per), or nearly 13,000 sheets. Men use on average of 8.11 sheets and women use 6.31 sheets.
     
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  6. neutrino_boi

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    I very much doubt this question was asked in good faith, but even if – if boys need to take bigger dumps, that's a basic biological need. Same as "girls need tampons/pads" and "boys need +150 calories at lunch".
     
  7. citygator

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    Charlotte
    Thats the only way to find out. :)
     
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  8. WarDamnGator

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    Wait, you've clarified several times in this thread that your argument is boys extra needs are always ignored?
     
  9. G8tas

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    This is such an odd thread. OP feels slighted that girls get free tampons
     
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  10. channingcrowderhungry

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    Yeah but girls use toilet paper when they piss and boys don't. So it's probably an even swap. Maybe the boys can wipe their ass with the tampons?
     
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  11. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Women have entered the workforce at a higher rate than before.
    Also, we should get more women on the front lines of wars.
    Maybe put more women down in coal mines too.
    That ought to even out life expectancy.
     
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  12. neutrino_boi

    neutrino_boi Senior

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    TINSTAAFL. Nothing is free -- if taxpayers (men and women) pay for tampons, girls get them, boys get nothing, that's a transfer of money from men to women. So... let's run the numbers. What percentage of the "wage gap" does that cancel and, thus, women will forever shut up about?

    Is this true in the USA? I've not looked at last year or so data, but I think post-COVID America got a little more housewife-y.

    I'm enough of a "gender equality is a two-edged sword" to not disagree. But maybe we shouldn't have any more wars.
     
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  13. WarDamnGator

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    According to my link above, the cost of a Tampon program in schools is about $3.50 per female student per year, or about 40 cents per month based on nine months of school...

    I'm sorry, but that doesn't make up for the "wage gap", not even close.

    It's also worth pointing out that boys bring a lot more disciplinary problems, autism diagnosis, and learning disabilities than girls, to schools ... which I'm sure costs a lot more than 40 cents per month ...
     
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  14. neutrino_boi

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    You've done the math! I applaud you for that... I mentioned I asked this same question to other fora and you're the only one with whom I initially disagreed who didn't get butthurt at the question and disengage.

    Fair points. I also support "red-shirting" about half of boys (such that girls born before December 1 and boys before June 1 of the same year graduate together) & am deeply ambivalent re: ADA/disability/etc. stuff in education. There is only so much money... maybe we spend too much on the bottom 10%?
     
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  15. PITBOSS

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    Your posts - HS boys need more food, worried about HS girls use of tampons, America is more “housewife-y”…… what ARE you talking about!?!! What is your point?
     
  16. neutrino_boi

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    16 yo boys require more calories than 16 yo girls.

    Some folks believe public schools should supply "free' (taxpayer-supported) tampons to girls/women in high school.

    "Housewife-y": the fraction of households that were a married couple -- man in the labor force, woman not -- increased between 2019 and 2021
     
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  17. PITBOSS

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    yes, I see that and stated in my post. But what is your preference? You’re concerned jr high and hs girls are receiving tampons?
     
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  18. demosthenes

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    I don’t understand how that stat could be true for men and women. Men don’t use toilet paper when urinating like women do. Seems like women would use a greater total.
     
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  19. demosthenes

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    If by proportional you mean higher BMIs get less then I’m on board. :D
     
  20. neutrino_boi

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    If girls get their biological need for menstrual products paid for via taxes, I'd also like boys biological need for 150-200 "extra" calories paid for via those same taxes.
     
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