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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by tampagtr, Mar 29, 2024.

  1. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    Really enjoying this series, even if it is a bit unnerving to see the actor that played the wonderful Croz on Masters of the Air convincingly portraying the mindset of John Wilkes Booth.

    In any event, 3 episodes so far, and Secretary of War Edwin Stanton, played by the Brit Gavin Menzies, has a great line I will paraphrase. At a reception following the swearing in of the execrable Andrew Johnson as President, Stanton confronts the announced consensus about "moving on" and pursuing prosperity, even while Booth and most of the conspirators ran free. Mind you, there was likely war exhaustion, and the concern about fully pursuing what appeared at the time, and possibly since, to be a Confederate plot to effectively decapitate the US Government with simultaneous assassinations of the War cabinet.

    But Stanton replies with words to the effect that you have to draw the line at murdering a President or there is no line, ostensibly referring to be a true Constitutional republic.
    Seems to be applicable to the current argument about moving on from January 6
     
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  2. tampagtr

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  3. wgbgator

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    Has the show been sued by the descendants of Samuel Mudd yet?
     
  4. tampagtr

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    Not that I have seen. And he is depicted as a full co-conspirator
     
  5. wgbgator

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    And a bigtime racist asshole to his domestic employees he treats like slaves
     
  6. tampagtr

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    Yep - portrayed as such. Although he's played by Matt Walsh, who I know from Veep, and it's hard to break that association
     
  7. gator_lawyer

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    Very interesting. I need to watch Masters of the Air and then I'll watch Manhunt.
     
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  8. tampagtr

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    Powerful show.
     
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  9. thenazz

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    Apple TV product continues to improve, albeit slowly. Eager to check out the Ben Franklin one as well.
     
  10. tampagtr

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    What a beautiful finale. So much to teach us.
     
  11. demosthenes

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    One of my favorite all time shows is Slow Horses. Gary Oldman is outstanding.
     
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  12. wgbgator

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    With Michael Douglass as lead, it seems we will finally get the historically accurate horny/pervy Franklin
     
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  13. WarDamnGator

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    When I was in elementary school they had some guy come in dressed up and pretending to be Benjamin Franklin, and he gave a presentation and did a Q&A. I remember this kid stood up for the Q&A and asked him “is it true you were a womanizer?”… Ben got mad at that question…
     
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  14. tampagtr

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    Ha. We went to this event - An Evening in Celebration of Frederick Douglass
    where Nathan Richardson played Frederick Douglass, a role he has occupied for a decade - https://www.scpublishing.com/about

    Nathan is now in the 10th year of The Frederick Douglass Speaking Tour - a living history performance in which he captures completely the physical and spiritual essence of the former slave, writer, orator and abolitionist Frederick Douglass. This living history series is a part of the Chautauqua Institute and has produced film credits with the National Park Service, Alabama Public Television. Nathan's rendition of "Frederick Douglass Honors the Unknown Loyal Dead" was nominated for "Best Short Film" at the 2022 I WILL TELL INTERNATION FILM FESTIVAL

    He got a similar question and handled it so deftly and intelligently that it seemed unfair.
     
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  15. tampagtr

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    Based on this series, which I have to read about more to determine its granular accuracy, Edwin Stanton belongs in the pantheon of the Founding Fathers of the New Birth of Freedom, along with (at least), Abe, John Bingham, Charles Sumner, Frederick Douglass and Thaddeus Stevens (personal favorite, though now Stanton may compete).

    These are equally founding fathers of the Republic, properly understood.
     
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  16. wgbgator

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    If we are going off of cool (+ alliterative) names, I want Adelbert Ames and Hannibal Hamlin
     
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  17. tampagtr

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    I thought HH during the show as Abe was played by Hamish Linklater
     
  18. thenazz

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    Yeah, that's great, I'm looking forward to season 3.
     
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    Indeed. He's actually pretty good in this, but it takes a while to buy him as BF.