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Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

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  1. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

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    If Israel did some measurable damage to Iran's nukes, it's on.
     
  2. GatorBen

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    In all likelihood Israel struck military targets near nuclear sites but not the nuclear sites themselves to show Iran they have the capability of striking those areas, and Iran will try to save face by falsely claiming that the Israeli attack was carried out via six paper airplanes and Iran shot them all down.
     
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  3. cocodrilo

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    It's already on. Iran's foreign minister told CNN only hours before this attack that Iran's response to any Israeli attack would be "immediate and decisive." But maybe we can count on him lying.
     
  4. ncargat1

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    The fires burning at Isfahan being shown on TV feeds indicates that nothing nuclear was launched by Israel and nothing nuclear was struck in Iran.
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    What could Biden do other than withdraw US support and how would that look if Israel cities gets hit due to lack of US support ?
     
  6. G8trGr8t

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    Doesn't Syria have SAMS and Russian fighter jets to help defend their airspace?
     
  7. ncargat1

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    That are routinely defeated. Yes
     
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  8. G8trGr8t

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    When did Iran get nukes? How did everyone miss that?

    Israel bombed an Iranian consulate and killed multiple senior Iranian military leaders in addition to leveling Gaza killing countless non combatants to avenge the 1200. Iran telegraphed their attack so it could be blocked. Israel could have taken the block for the win and moved on
     
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  9. okeechobee

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    Grabbing popcorn and a security blanket. Praying for Lord Trump to save us.
     
  10. cocodrilo

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    I would say that Biden is screwed. And IMO this is all for the sake of Netanyahu's political survival. At the expense of Biden's.
     
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  11. okeechobee

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    Why is Biden beholden to Netanyahu’s success or failure?
     
  12. uftaipan

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    To the first question: Beats me, but going through Syria and Iraq makes the most sense.

    To the second: Safely? As in without prohibitive interference from the Syrians or Iraqis? (shrugs) Probably. But I know so little about what Israel actually did, how they did it, or what damage they caused, that it’s difficult to say right now. For all I know, Israel pulled this attack off with people and resources it smuggled into Iran months ago, and got around the distance and airspace problem that way.
     
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  13. cocodrilo

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    Biden supports Israel, and therefore has to support Netanyahu, who the Israelis want out of office. What better way for Netanyahu to get all those protesters off the streets in Israel than to wag the dog? You know what wag the dog means, don't you? As was posted earlier, there was no reason for Israel to launch this attack. Iran had embarrassed itself with the almost total failure of its own retaliatory attack on Israel, so why couldn't Israel leave well enough alone and say we're even? Because Netanyahu is trying to save his sorry ass. And now Biden has no choice but to help him save it and put Trump's sorry ass in the White House.
     
  14. GatorBen

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    Biden’s suggested “just take the win and don’t do anything” strategy was, at least IMO, never realistic.

    If a country launches hundreds of ballistic missiles at you, there is next to no one who is just going to shrug and say “turns out your missiles suck.” Iran took a massive escalation step by launching ballistic and cruise missiles at Israel directly from Iranian territory.

    All indications seem to be that, assuming this was the end of the Israeli response, Israel launched a very limited strike to send the message that they have the ability to put ordnance down in central Iran close to Iran’s most sensitive military installations notwithstanding Iranian air defenses. They appear to have delivered that message, and Iran is seemingly, at least for now, trying to de-escalate and downplay what Israel did (the seemingly absurd assertion that these were quad-copter drones, for example).
     
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  15. cocodrilo

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    I hope you're right. But I can't be very optimistic about the Middle East, with the people there eating and breathing hatred for each other.
     
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    The Biden administration (reportedly) wants journalists in Gaza killed as much as Israel does. Journalists reporting US-assisted genocide would not enhance Biden's reelection prospects
     
  17. G8trGr8t

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    Reason for optimism?
    .https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...es-hit-site-iran-abc-news-reports-2024-04-19/

    DUBAI/JERUSALEM, April 19 (Reuters) - Explosions echoed over an Iranian city on Friday in what sources described as an Israeli attack, but Tehran played down the incident and indicated it had no plans for retaliation - a response that appeared gauged towards averting region-wide war.
    The limited scale of the attack and Iran's muted response both appeared to signal a successful effort by diplomats who have been working round the clock to avert all-out war since an Iranian drone and missile attack on Israel last Saturday.
     
  18. cocodrilo

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    That's good news. Maybe Netanyahu can concentrate again now on slaughtering or starving Palestinian men, women and children. (Biden: "Come on now, ease up on that stuff.") Let's see, it was roughly 1200 Israeli dead, 30,000 or more Palestinians. That's the old biblical principle, about 25 eyes for an eye, about 25 teeth for a tooth. That doesn't sound so bad, does it?
     
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  19. ncargat1

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    So, if Russia announced that they were firing 300+ missiles at Washington DC, you would be ok with the US President saying that "hey, we intercepted them, so all is good"? All of this after a sneak attack murdered 1000+ people in Miami and several dozen more kidnapped, taken back to Russia and held hostage?

    I am about the last person in the world to ever pick up a gun and point it anyone else and pull the trigger. However, I understand exactly why Israel has done what it did and hopefully the Iranians received the message. No target in Iran is safe, so stop the non-sense. Further, hiding behind their proxies of Hezbollah and Hamas will no longer protect them.
     
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