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Or Biden could enact stay in Mexico and this crisis would slow significantly. It is funny to see you keep ignoring that obvious solution. It's always the other sides fault I see...

 

Nobody is ignoring this obvious solution, which isn't a solution at all. It's just those of us with half a brain understand this is a terrible idea with horrific consequences. During the height of the pandemic, there were 70,000 people waiting in Mexico, and it was a humanitarian nightmare with thousands kidnapped, raped, or hurt. Imagine what it would look like today, with 4X as many immigrants attempting to come into the country!

And during the pandemic, Mexico agreed to cooperate. But since the pandemic is now only an epidemic, Mexico has stated, several times, they will not take non-citizens back. And both domestic and international human rights groups will sue if we tried to enact this policy again. And given the abuses, and the entire country of Mexico refusing, there's a good chance the US can't legally enact this policy without a global pandemic.

Then there's the issue of what say 250,000 immigrants waiting just on the Mexico side of the border would do. There's only 18,000 total BP Agents on our Southern border. There's also $600 million of goods coming through into the US from Mexico through regular crossings every day. The immigrants could decide to blockade all traffic into the US. Or, they could decide to cut/climb the wall, and there's no way we can catch them all. Just too many of them, especially considering the ratio of immigrants to BP Agents.

Remain in Mexico is a silly solution for the simple minded. It's like trying to stop a river with a stick. It simply won't work, and would cause more problems than solve anything. It was bad during the pandemic. Today? Total disaster.

 

Why should we worry about what 250k immigrants waiting on the Mexico would do? Do we worry about other people in the world the same way? Of course not. The US can't take everyone. Tough luck. Put the military at the border for a bit if there is an issue. Problem solved. Remain in Mexico is the solution. The rest is people wanting open borders. Just laugh at those people.

 

Sorry, but don't want to militarize the border with our military. The military is trained to invade or protect by killing. I don't want to see hundreds of thousands of dead civilians, including women and children, in my backyard. I live in a border state. Do you?

And 250k people living just yards away from our border doesn't concern you? How would you like 100 people living in squalid conditions just off your property line? Do you think that's not a recipe for major issues? Now, consider 250k immigrants in squalid conditions as they suffer human rights abuses? Your answer? Use the military and just shoot them all!

Again, you solutions are silly and for the simple minded only. And they would create a ton more problems than any they would solve.

 

LOL. Our military is trained to keep people off a base in foreign countries. Not complicated. Stay in Mexico is the solution. The rest is far lefties wanting open borders and making excuses.

 

What base has a 2000 mile long entrance? And how does the military keep people off base? Ask them nicely to leave? Or, do they train rifles on unwanted visitors?

The military is best used for enemy combatants. Unarmed immigrants, including women and children, don't meet this definition. Which is miliratizing the border is a bad idea. So is remain in Mexico, which again, may not be legal, and will create a huge population of migrants right in our border, with major human rights abuses. A simple solution that would undoubtedly create more, and worse problems than any it solves. Which is why it's being proposed only by simpletons who have difficulties grasping the complex.

 

lol. And people wonder why I just laugh at that poster.

First off it’s Mexicos issue and also you are just making up numbers, but not a surprise. Was there 250k immigrants waiting in Mexico when stay in Mexico was in place? Of course not.

 

I can do math. There were about 70,000 immigrants waiting in 2020. That was during the pandemic lull. Today, there are about 4X the amount of immigrants attempting to cross. Can you do the math? 250k may be a low estimate.

And tens of thousands of migrants, wanting in the US, living in squalid conditions on our doorstep in Mexico won't spill into the US because?.... Because you're too much of a simpleton to realize this is a complex problem, and your solution would create more problems than it solves.

 

That's Mexico's problem. Let them get their southern border in order if they don't want that many illegals in their country. Not our problem. Stay in Mexico solves most of the US's border issues. The rest is people lying and saying it's not an option.

 

Say your house borders a neighborhood park. And there are homeless in your area. They decide to set up camp and sleep in the park bordering your house. 1 isn't likely a problem for you. Neither is 5. But v what about 25? 100? 500 all in the park neighboring your house. Think it's just the park's problem and won't spill over at all into your problem?

Again, thinking remain in Mexico actually solves anything without creating a while new set of worse problems is simpleton thinking. Tens, if not hundred of thousands of migrants at our doorstep in Mexico, living in squalid conditions, and enduring humanitarian abuses aren't simply going to stay and let it happen. And this problem will spill over next door into the US.

 

Let's make up a bunch of what/if scenarios and try to scare everyone! OR just enforce stay in mexico so then migrants won't even attempt to come to the US if they know there isn't a chance to get into our country. Simple as that.

 

We haven't had a secure border with Mexico since we've had a border with Mexico! But you think you can snap your fingers and do the impossible?

Did you look in the mirror when you typed? You should. Border crossing has been an issue since the days of Pancho Villa. There are no easy fixes.

 

That is brilliant thinking. Because it hasn't been done before so then it can't ever be done. Got it. And people sometimes wonder why I just laugh at your posts. "Impossible"? What a joke. With your thinking we wouldn't have gone to the moon.

 

I forget. Put up a magic wall and all is fixed. Just like Israel...Oops.

And why aren't you answering the question. Do you think having 500 homeless people living in squalor in a park bordering your property a good idea or not? And would this problem not spill into your property? Yes or no?

Now, if you think 500 people living in squalid conditions in a park bordering your property, what makes you think tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands living in squalid conditions just S of the US border is a good idea? Do you get the analogy? Or is your thinking just way too dim there?

 

LOL. OK lets play your gotcha game. If 500 homeless people were living in squalor next to my house I would build a 30 foot wall and have guard dogs on my property. Israel's wall did stop countless terrorists from trying to get into Israel as I've shown in data before. But no, a wall won't stop a military by itself. Didn't realize I needed to state that but again. So yes, IF the US is serious about our border than build a wall that is very hard to get over, have cameras/AI monitor the wall 24/7, have an increase in border patrol agents as well.

But the status quo isn't working except for illegals, companies who can pay illegals shitty wages and far lefties like yourself.

 

Think your wall and dogs would stop the smell? The sounds? The crime in the park? LOL.

Israel's wall didn't stop anyone or anything from entering. I've shown you time and time again that before Oct, thousands of Palestinian workers were crossing daily. They would either cut or climb. The wall also didn't prevent a large terrorist attack. Quick question. The image below, is it Palestinians climbing the Israeli wall, or migrants climbing the US wall?





The amount of money, man-power, and tech needed to have a "secure" border would be astronomical. And still no guarantee that we'd be successful, especially with hundred of thousands of people waiting on our doorstep. Just like Israel failed.

 

LOL. So yeah, it would suck if 250K hypothetical people camped outside my house like your brilliant what/if scenario. But back in reality, securing the border is hard yes, but doing so would save thousands of lives a year alone in cutting down on the fentanyl that is flowing into the US from Mexico. But hey, since it's hard let's not do it! Let's teach our kids that! Hey, if it's hard, let's not do it. Let's take the easy road!

 

90% of all fentanyl caught coming into the US is seized at legal Ports of Entry. Really think a wall in a middle of the desert is going to make a dent in the fentanyl traffic?

And 250k is a small estimate. Last December, Border Patrol encountered an estimated 300,000 immigrants attempting to cross. 50,000 of them through the same legal ports of entry, which mean they were highly likely ready to surrender to ICE and request asylum.

Had we enacted a Gang of 8 style plan a decade ago, and charged working immigrants just $5/week for a guest worker visa, we'd be generating $2 billion plus in tax revenue from these visas. Monies we can use for better tech and ways to find the drugs being smuggled in with legal goods at the border at POE. This might actually save lives and reduce the fentanyl coming in. A wall? Stops nothing, and again, only a very small amount of drugs are coming in through the desert.

It's not the easy or the hard road. It's the logical road. We have a demand for immigrant labor. Let's first and foremost allow supply of labor to legally meet demand, like we did during the Bracero Program, and what was suggested by the Gang of 8. We can then use the revenues generated to address the other border issues, such as drugs coming in at POE.

Or, we can think a wall, which has never worked in the history of mankind, is the answer. And having hundreds of thousands waiting to enter at the border won't spill into this country!

Look in the mirror lately?

 

LOL. Oh, I'd love to believe the 90% number, but it's complete BS. In reality no one has any idea how many people are truly crossing the border because we don't have a wall everywhere with cameras/video/AI monitoring 24/7. The rest is you being your usual self trying to rationalize something that pretty much no one believes. So now a wall has never worked in the history of mankind? Wow! Take a bow! How come prisons have walls? For shits and giggles? Why do banks have walls? Why is there a fence around the White House? How come the Palestinians don't just go to Egypt? Hmmm, crazy questions, right? So now the logical solution is to keep having millions of illegals flowing into the US every year. Brilliant.

 

Reading comprehension issues? 90% of the fentanyl seized at the border is at POE. We know exactly how much is seized, do we not? And a single truckload of drugs is a lot more than what people can carry on foot for miles.

And do you understand the word, "encounter?" There were 300,000 encounters at the border with migrants in December, 2023. That's 300,000 times Border Patrol stopped an undocumented person at or near the border, with 50,000 of them at POE.

Walls don't work. At least walls alone. It's why prisons have cells, cameras, and 24/7 guards. Israel had all of these too, and still, their wall didn't work.

We've also already had millions flowing through the border, in and out. A Gang of 8 plan would monetize this flow for those who stay here, and allow us better control and knowledge of who is in and who is out. For decades, we've tried stopping and/or slowing the flow. How's that worked out to date?

Look in the mirror.